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Old 03-20-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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So enlighten me- I have a hard time believing this claim that Obama wasn't born in this country. I have had to present my birth certificate in many cases throughout my life, for example to get a passport.

How could a man run for a Senate seat in Illinois, then run for President of the United States, without being vetted completely regarding his citizenship?

Please do not just reply with vague rhetoric about 'hussein obama', and lefties- I would like someone to prove this claim to me- and don't just say that the state of Hawaii is involved in some sort of coverup without backing it up- I would like someone to offer up some REAL PROOF, without resorting to a claim of some conspiracy theory- I am curious to see if anyone can offer up a logical rational argument for this claim-

This claim about Obama reminds me of the claim by some of the radical left that Bush was really a closet homosexual- just a way for opponents of a president to attack him without having to offer up real proof, and to just claim there is a big coverup going on-
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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They can never prove it..
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:45 AM
 
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So enlighten me- I have a hard time believing this claim that Obama wasn't born in this country. I have had to present my birth certificate in many cases throughout my life, for example to get a passport.

How could a man run for a Senate seat in Illinois, then run for President of the United States, without being vetted completely regarding his citizenship?

Please do not just reply with vague rhetoric about 'hussein obama', and lefties- I would like someone to prove this claim to me- and don't just say that the state of Hawaii is involved in some sort of coverup without backing it up- I would like someone to offer up some REAL PROOF, without resorting to a claim of some conspiracy theory- I am curious to see if anyone can offer up a logical rational argument for this claim-
Yeah, me too!

I'm waiting for SOMEONE to offer up some real proof, too.

Hey, like, we're sympatico!
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:50 AM
 
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So enlighten me- I have a hard time believing this claim that Obama wasn't born in this country. I have had to present my birth certificate in many cases throughout my life, for example to get a passport.

How could a man run for a Senate seat in Illinois, then run for President of the United States, without being vetted completely regarding his citizenship?

Please do not just reply with vague rhetoric about 'hussein obama', and lefties- I would like someone to prove this claim to me- and don't just say that the state of Hawaii is involved in some sort of coverup without backing it up- I would like someone to offer up some REAL PROOF, without resorting to a claim of some conspiracy theory- I am curious to see if anyone can offer up a logical rational argument for this claim-

This claim about Obama reminds me of the claim by some of the radical left that Bush was really a closet homosexual- just a way for opponents of a president to attack him without having to offer up real proof, and to just claim there is a big coverup going on-

Simple. In the state of Illinois it is not required to prove your citizenship. Next?
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Simple. In the state of Illinois it is not required to prove your citizenship. Next?
Link? To acutal information that is, not some RW blog that says it is so.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:53 AM
 
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Yeah, me too!

I'm waiting for SOMEONE to offer up some real proof, too.

Hey, like, we're sympatico!


There are MANY people that are waiting for real proof that hussein obama is a citizen (of America).
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:57 AM
 
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Link? To acutal information that is, not some RW blog that says it is so.

My Katiana, you are not one of those people that pays someone to do their homework for them, are you? Look it up. It's what I do when someone post something I do not know or are unsure of. Taking a little personal respnsibility goes a long way.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There never has been a shred of proof to the position (http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Obama_citizenship_denial)

So they go with the next best (laughably) best thing. Moral panic about evil (even though they are lying, and know it), ad hominem arguments (calling anyone who questions stupid, troll, evil as well), Kool-Aid drinking (even though the entire belief without truth thing they are pushing is the definition of "drinking" it), or when all else fails....it's a government conspiracy they can't prove.

It's pretty obvious how far fetched and deranged it is when those who still believe it have said they will never accept proof to the contrary.

Pretty massive irony no one has said a peep about any of the other citizenship questions. Like McCain born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone; or 1964 Republican candidate, Barry Goldwater, was born in 1909 in Phoenix, Arizona Territory, which was not even a state until 1912.

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Old 03-20-2010, 11:02 AM
 
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Simple. In the state of Illinois it is not required to prove your citizenship. Next?
No matter which state you are in, to run for the Senate you must be a U.S. citizen for at least nine years- do you honestly believe that the Senate would allow the seating of someonethat wasn't vetted thoroughly?
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