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Stop fostering the dependence. The poor are not helpless..they are just poor. But they keep on treating them like they are disabled shut-ins.
I don't want anyone dependent on the government BUT we shouldn't act like people won't ever need a safety net. That is precisely why I want a more robust social safety net for people.
This recession is proving to many people that bad things can happen to them.
Have you not read the reports about the increase in people visiting food pantries? Most of these people were once middle class but once they lost their job....that was it. There are more people losing their homes and they're living out their cars.
Of course the US' priorities are screwed so we'd rather funnel billions into two wars we can't win rather than have universal health care, low tuition public universities and colleges, work on our infrastructure (mass transit, high speed rail, water quality, etc), etc, etc.
ACORN does more than just register poor people to vote. They advocate for a raise in the minimum wage and they try to help people find jobs. What is so wrong with that? Of course I know Big Business would HATE to see a raise in the minimum wage and if you watch that Rachel Maddow clip, you'll learn a lot about the origins of rottenAcorn.com.
ACORN does not speak for all Americans. ACORN has their agenda.
Keep justifying the NEED for that dependence.
I'm all for safety nets. But we've gone too far.
We need people to help poor people find jobs now because they cannot do it for themselves ?
We need people to help poor people fill out a post card because they cannot do it for themselves ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of Walmarts for better working conditions/benefits ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of city governments for better mass transit ?
Why isn't ACORN actively trying to foster INDEPENDENCE in the poor ? That is helping them.
What they do today is not helping them. It is nothing more than government funded dependence.
Keep the peasants fat, lazy and stupid and there will be no rebellion.
ACORN does not speak for all Americans. ACORN has their agenda.
Keep justifying the NEED for that dependence.
I'm all for safety nets. But we've gone too far.
We need people to help poor people find jobs now because they cannot do it for themselves ?
We need people to help poor people fill out a post card because they cannot do it for themselves ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of Walmarts for better working conditions/benefits ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of city governments for better mass transit ?
Why isn't ACORN actively trying to foster INDEPENDENCE in the poor ? That is helping them.
What they do today is not helping them. It is nothing more than government funded dependence.
Keep the peasants fat, lazy and stupid and there will be no rebellion.
You could pretty much replace ACORN with the name of any Political Party or Group.
They are a easy target to find issue with, real and imagined.
(I was going to go through each line, but I'd rather go out and enjoy a walk with my dog......)
Ok but why do all these groups that are in place and funded to help the poor foster dependence rather than independence ?
There's a helping hand and then there's a crutch.
There are millions of people, worldwide, that just cannot function the way most people do. Many, can not work, and many, you would not want working, and many when they do find some work, it sends them further down, rather then up.
ACORN does not speak for all Americans. ACORN has their agenda.
Keep justifying the NEED for that dependence.
I'm all for safety nets. But we've gone too far.
We need people to help poor people find jobs now because they cannot do it for themselves ?
We need people to help poor people fill out a post card because they cannot do it for themselves ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of Walmarts for better working conditions/benefits ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of city governments for better mass transit ?
Why isn't ACORN actively trying to foster INDEPENDENCE in the poor ? That is helping them.
What they do today is not helping them. It is nothing more than government funded dependence.
Keep the peasants fat, lazy and stupid and there will be no rebellion.
In terms of safety nets, I'd say we haven't gone far enough.
As for your last sentence, I'd replace the words "fat" and "lazy" with "scared" and "obedient."
People fearing the loss of their jobs generally aren't going to fight for better working conditions when they know it's much harder to find a new job IF their employer decides for fire them for speaking up.
There's a reason companies spend so much money on union busters.
In terms of safety nets, I'd say we haven't gone far enough.
As for your last sentence, I'd replace the words "fat" and "lazy" with "scared" and "obedient."
People fearing the loss of their jobs generally aren't going to fight for better working conditions when they know it's much harder to find a new job IF their employer decides for fire them for speaking up.
There's a reason companies spend so much money on union busters.
Unions ? ACORN is working with the Unions ?
I don't buy the "scared" and "obedient"..no way.
From the volunteer work I've done there are grateful people and then there are the, let's just say "others". They are not scared and obedient, not by any means. I have to bite my tongue and hope that there are more of the former than the latter that rely on these safety nets in our society.
ACORN does not speak for all Americans. ACORN has their agenda.
Keep justifying the NEED for that dependence.
I'm all for safety nets. But we've gone too far.
We need people to help poor people find jobs now because they cannot do it for themselves ?
We need people to help poor people fill out a post card because they cannot do it for themselves ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of Walmarts for better working conditions/benefits ?
Why isn't ACORN protesting outside of city governments for better mass transit ?
Why isn't ACORN actively trying to foster INDEPENDENCE in the poor ? That is helping them.
What they do today is not helping them. It is nothing more than government funded dependence.
Keep the peasants fat, lazy and stupid and there will be no rebellion.
I disagree with all of this.
Finding a job is tough for everyone, especially now. But try and find one when you have a psychiatric, intellectual or physical impairment. Try to find one when you have a criminal history, are homeless or have no car.
How is helping a significant portion of the population find employment not fostering independence? If these people get a job, we all win. If they remain unemployed, they'll end up collecting welfare or extended unemployment which is MUCH more costly than job coaching.
IMO, you're being penny wise and pound foolish.
Last edited by songgirl; 03-21-2010 at 08:37 PM..
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