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Old 03-30-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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Those of us who cherish freedom know that the Constitution and Declaration of Independence lets us know that certain rights and freedoms are granted by GOD and not another man.

Maybe this is why the Tea Party movement is gaining such steam. They believe in those inalienble rights granted by GOD and not some clown in an Ivory tower with an ugly dog.

Could we be witnessing GOOD vs. EVIL in action?

Why such an attack on the Constitution.?
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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wow. In one post you've been able to completely undermine and annihilate the Tea Party movement and any of it's credibility....let's take a look at the replay shall we?

We start with TWO documents..the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. They set a nice pick and screen, but the point man goes off the rails on a tangent and starts talking about rights from GOD and not men and totally dribbles the ball out of bounds. Did the point man some how forget or just is that stupid to not recognize that those documents are/were written by MEN? That those MEN with their claims in that document FOR THE FIRST TIME make that assertion, and NOT a passed down fable from GOD.

So...let's recap...they espouse the goodness from a document written by MEN, for MEN with rights that have never been asserted previously by free MEN? And then assert that GOD gave them those rights from within those documents not MEN...but the same MEN who gave them the document were the same MEN in IVORY TOWERS they rant about.

Better get him a T.O. Babyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! This is gonna get ugly as that's gonna leave a mark!
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:23 PM
 
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wow. In one post you've been able to completely undermine and annihilate the Tea Party movement and any of it's credibility....let's take a look at the replay shall we?

We start with TWO documents..the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. They set a nice pick and screen, but the point man goes off the rails on a tangent and starts talking about rights from GOD and not men and totally dribbles the ball out of bounds. Did the point man some how forget or just is that stupid to not recognize that those documents are/were written by MEN? That those MEN with their claims in that document FOR THE FIRST TIME make that assertion, and NOT a passed down fable from GOD.

So...let's recap...they espouse the goodness from a document written by MEN, for MEN with rights that have never been asserted previously by free MEN? And then assert that GOD gave them those rights from within those documents not MEN...but the same MEN who gave them the document were the same MEN in IVORY TOWERS they rant about.

Better get him a T.O. Babyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!! This is gonna get ugly as that's gonna leave a mark!
That was a whole lotta nothing you just posted so let me ask you:

Do you think it is your man-made right to free speech or a God given right?
Do you think it is your man-made right to assembly or a God given right?
Do you think it is your man-made right protect your family or a God given right?
Do you think it is your man-made right to freedom or a God given right?
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Silly little poster...they are all rights afforded and granted to me by MEN. Wonderful and ingenious MEN who crafted a document(s) to work within a framework that has been able to withstand the vile and vitriol from insurrectionists and outside agitators to continue to be a beacon of hope and strength to those from far shores and lands. God given rights? God has allowed us to live and to love our fellow man, and has also given us a framework to live within...regardless of your chosen faith.

Those "whole lotta nothing" you quip about is; of themselves individually nothing. But collectively they are a "whole lotta something" and much bigger and more firm and resolute than anything you can muster against it's Republic.

Another outta bounds turnover off of your foot...0 for 2 and the clock is ticking fast. If you're gonna bring it in the paint, you better come hard, cause that little ticky-tack finger roll stuff you're throwin' around is gonna get swatted.

What else ya got?
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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Silly little poster...they are all rights afforded and granted to me by MEN. Wonderful and ingenious MEN who crafted a document(s) to work within a framework that has been able to withstand the vile and vitriol from insurrectionists and outside agitators to continue to be a beacon of hope and strength to those from far shores and lands. God given rights? God has allowed us to live and to love our fellow man, and has also given us a framework to live within...regardless of your chosen faith.

Those "whole lotta nothing" you quip about is; of themselves individually nothing. But collectively they are a "whole lotta something" and much bigger and more firm and resolute than anything you can muster against it's Republic.

Another outta bounds turnover off of your foot...0 for 2 and the clock is ticking fast. If you're gonna bring it in the paint, you better come hard, cause that little ticky-tack finger roll stuff you're throwin' around is gonna get swatted.

What else ya got?
Twisted logic from corrupt and damaged mindlessness. Incoherent in both form and function.

The declaration of independence and constitution (if you are capable of reading, you should try it sometime), and the men who penned them both went to great lengths to define a fundamental truth .. that we are born free men .. that liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a birthright, and not a privilege to be granted or denied by other men or by government.

That the rights of liberty are inalienable ... meaning that they cannot be taken away or given away is the foundational principle of both documents.

It is sad to see such inability to read and comprehend, or even the basic ability to think and reason.
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:05 PM
 
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The declaration of independence and constitution (if you are capable of reading, you should try it sometime), and the men who penned them both went to great lengths to define a fundamental truth .. that we are born free men .. that liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a birthright, and not a privilege to be granted or denied by other men or by government.

That the rights of liberty are inalienable ... meaning that they cannot be taken away or given away is the foundational principle of both documents.


Thanks, GuyNTexas. You beat me to it!
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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Twisted logic from corrupt and damaged mindlessness. Incoherent in both form and function.

The declaration of independence and constitution (if you are capable of reading, you should try it sometime), and the men who penned them both went to great lengths to define a fundamental truth .. that we are born free men .. that liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a birthright, and not a privilege to be granted or denied by other men or by government.

That the rights of liberty are inalienable ... meaning that they cannot be taken away or given away is the foundational principle of both documents.

It is sad to see such inability to read and comprehend, or even the basic ability to think and reason.
Bravo!!!!
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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Silly little poster...they are all rights afforded and granted to me by MEN. Wonderful and ingenious MEN who crafted a document(s) to work within a framework that has been able to withstand the vile and vitriol from insurrectionists and outside agitators to continue to be a beacon of hope and strength to those from far shores and lands. God given rights? God has allowed us to live and to love our fellow man, and has also given us a framework to live within...regardless of your chosen faith.

Those "whole lotta nothing" you quip about is; of themselves individually nothing. But collectively they are a "whole lotta something" and much bigger and more firm and resolute than anything you can muster against it's Republic.

Another outta bounds turnover off of your foot...0 for 2 and the clock is ticking fast. If you're gonna bring it in the paint, you better come hard, cause that little ticky-tack finger roll stuff you're throwin' around is gonna get swatted.

What else ya got?
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Those of us who cherish freedom know that the Constitution and Declaration of Independence lets us know that certain rights and freedoms are granted by GOD and not another man.

Maybe this is why the Tea Party movement is gaining such steam. They believe in those inalienble rights granted by GOD and not some clown in an Ivory tower with an ugly dog.

Could we be witnessing GOOD vs. EVIL in action?

Why such an attack on the Constitution.?
Where were you people when we invaded another country without a declaration of war?

Where were you when the Patriot Act was passed?

Where were you when the US undertook policies in direct violation of the Nuremberg Doctrine?

and on and on

You are full of it
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Old 03-30-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Twisted logic from corrupt and damaged mindlessness. Incoherent in both form and function.

The declaration of independence and constitution (if you are capable of reading, you should try it sometime), and the men who penned them both went to great lengths to define a fundamental truth .. that we are born free men .. that liberty and the pursuit of happiness is a birthright, and not a privilege to be granted or denied by other men or by government.

That the rights of liberty are inalienable ... meaning that they cannot be taken away or given away is the foundational principle of both documents.

It is sad to see such inability to read and comprehend, or even the basic ability to think and reason.
My friend I have read both documents as well as their other writings with great extent and vigor. And both documents are more than just a fundamental truth, they are the framework for a Republic that stands for more than mindlessness and idiotic rantings from those too obtuse enough to realize that those "truths" they put in there were "truths" that they created. Truths that they were the first to put forth and to apply to a document which is the foundation of the great Republic that shines like a beacon to others. Truths which ARE THE ONLY founding documents of any recent government (200+ years) that GRANT their citizens these "truths".

Your perspective is skewed by the basis of your citizenship, our "rights" are inalienable (too a point-see Patriot Act for verification on that) and while resolute can and have been taken away for the overall good of the country for the past 234 years (give or take depending on your perspective) for various reasons. The founding principle of those documents is not our freedom, but our independence from England. The "truths" and "rights" you're so flippant yet ignorant about were just gravy on top for the founders of the Republic to hang their case on.

Indeed, reading and comprehension are at an all time low, and your response is a great testament to it. But then again, sheep follow other sheep, so I'm not all that surprised or worried about it. Because there stand true patriots who both know and understand the intricacies and foundations the founding fathers meant and intended for our Republic and they will stand the wall of freedom, so that you...and I...can enjoy this banter on your expense.



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