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It is not two conflicting laws. Telling teens not to have sex but if you do have sex protect yourself is not encouraging sex.
I guess you didn't read the article. "Southworth warned that teaching a student how to properly use contraceptives would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a misdemeanor punishable by up to nine months behind bars and a $10,000 fine."
I guess you didn't read the article. "Southworth warned that teaching a student how to properly use contraceptives would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a misdemeanor punishable by up to nine months behind bars and a $10,000 fine."
I did read the article, the idea that teaching a student how to use contraceptives contributes to the delinquency of a minor is garbage. Its a bunch of bs, the DA made up because the state policy doesn't conform to his extremist viewpoint.
I did read the article, the idea that teaching a student how to use contraceptives contributes to the delinquency of a minor is garbage. Its a bunch of bs, the DA made up because the state policy doesn't conform to his extremist viewpoint.
you are right, it doesn't lead to delinquency, that is a stretch, but if he was told not to teach whatever, he shouldn't teach it. this is not taking sides on the sex education issue, that is another subject for another time.
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It is not two conflicting laws. Telling teens not to have sex but if you do have sex protect yourself is not encouraging sex.
That's like telling a teen don't use drugs but if you do, here's how to safely use them. Either it is ok or it is not! Our teens are getting conflicting messages about sex and society constantly drills it in their heads that it is natural to give in and abstinence is unrealistic so of course they are going to go for the condom (which isn't 100% effective).
you are right, it doesn't lead to delinquency, that is a stretch, but if he was told not to teach whatever, he shouldn't teach it. this is not taking sides on the sex education issue, that is another subject for another time.
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He isn't being told not to teach whatever. In fact the state policy calls for comprehensive sex education to be taught in districts that teach sex education. The DA is making threats to arrest teachers who follow state policy because he personally disagrees with the state policy.
That's like telling a teen don't use drugs but if you do, here's how to safely use them. Either it is ok or it is not! Our teens are getting conflicting messages about sex and society constantly drills it in their heads that it is natural to give in and abstinence is unrealistic so of course they are going to go for the condom (which isn't 100% effective).
Its not giving teens conflicting messages. Its teaching gives safety, abstinence is stressed in all of these types of classes. Its like telling teens not to drink and leaving it at that, without mentioning anything about not driving if you indeed drink.
Opt IN is the ONLY option that would prevent a child from being taught sex ed against the wishes of their parents as the opt-out notice may not reach the parent in time. In the case of sex ed, parental rights trumps the schools rights.
Keeping your child ignorant isn't your entitlement. The school doesn't have rights, it has a mandate to educate. This is how conservatives have become what they claim to be against and their position loses all credibility. It's not that conservative values have no validity, it's the way y'all go about things and the utter contempt you have for the civilization that puts bread on your table. Meaning to live with your head in the sand and keeping your children there forever isn't sustainable.
Perhaps in the true spirit of conservative values someone should tally up the bill how much your lifestyle costs the rest of us. Mom didn't teach you how to do a self breast exam, you don't want to teach your daughter to be responsible for her own health, and now everyone's insurance goes up to cure your 100k cancer. The party of accountability and personal responsibility you say?
I went out of my way to afford you the respect of your religious beliefs and rights as parent, but you breezed past the option to take responsibility for your own children by burdening the system to appease your personal sensibilities. Why should anyone have tolerance or patience for any group (islamic, black, christian, gay- whatever group you want to insert in there) that won't oblige itself the same respect for all?
Mac- I'd ask you to answer that directly for a change. When y'all get yourselves in the business of being fair and negotiating in good faith, people might be willing to take your arguments seriously. This is coming from the middle btw, not the liberal you've been conditioned to believe is the source of all misery on the planet.
Just once I'd love to see a PTA meeting trashed with entitled parents blaming the world why Johnny can't read... let the speaker announce the meeting for parents who are responsible for their children is being relocated to another room and leave these idiots pointing at one another forever. This nonsense is played out.
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Keeping your child ignorant isn't your entitlement. The school doesn't have rights, it has a mandate to educate. This is how conservatives have become what they claim to be against and their position loses all credibility. It's not that conservative values have no validity, it's the way y'all go about things and the utter contempt you have for the civilization that puts bread on your table. Meaning to live with your head in the sand and keeping your children there forever isn't sustainable.
Yeah well the educational system is failing in its mandate to educate. The graduates that are coming out of our public school systems are coming out ignorant, illiterate and unable to think for themselves. But hey, they know how to insert a condom unto a cucumber. *claps* You gripe about tax payers and insurance carriers paying more because conservatives don't want the public schools to teach sexual education, which amounts to a morality issue and not just a biological function? How much are we paying for welfare because many adults are leaving the school systems illiterate and unable to hold down a job because liberals educrats wasted so much time teaching about sex ed, diversity sensitivity, gay/lesbian rights and other things when our children cannot READ?
That's like telling a teen don't use drugs but if you do, here's how to safely use them. Either it is ok or it is not! Our teens are getting conflicting messages about sex and society constantly drills it in their heads that it is natural to give in and abstinence is unrealistic so of course they are going to go for the condom (which isn't 100% effective).
Yeah well the educational system is failing in its mandate to educate. The graduates that are coming out of our public school systems are coming out ignorant, illiterate and unable to think for themselves. But hey, they know how to insert a condom unto a cucumber. *claps* You gripe about tax payers and insurance carriers paying more because conservatives don't want the public schools to teach sexual education, which amounts to a morality issue and not just a biological function? How much are we paying for welfare because many adults are leaving the school systems illiterate and unable to hold down a job because liberals educrats wasted so much time teaching about sex ed, diversity sensitivity, gay/lesbian rights and other things when our children cannot READ?
Another well stated, true, albeit sad, post.
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