Tea Party Express in Boston-See the irony?

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Originally Posted by irspow

Drama aside.

Yes, it has always been this way. That is why the State as a conquering, hired, or elected, thug will always be a bad thing for individual liberty.

I see a big difference between our system and others, as I have said that our original premise was a great leap forward in individual freedom. However, the entirety of special interest law that has accumulated has transformed us into something quite unlike its origin. Now it is merely a matter of style not substance to those who are victims of initiations of force by government. We are not a nation of individual freedom anymore, we are a nation of particular freedom. We have all freedoms that the government does not fear. As soon as any freedom is viewed as dangerous to the system, it will be abolished by those who control it.

As to a "civil society", all that people must do is not initiate force upon their fellow man. Voluntary cooperation without the use of force. If a society has to use force to impose its will and keep prisoners and slaves, it is no longer "civil" in any way. Smaller societies that can reach consensus and voluntary cooperation are needed to be "civil". Large societies that must have large portions of their population being victims to those in power at any given time are a tragedy not just to freedom, but to humanity as well.

Live and let live.

What on earth are you talking about? Please, leave the overdramatic fantasy at the door. I don't know about you, but I'm very free. I'm not a victim nor a slave. Stop whining and get a Harley, dude. Then you'll realize what freedom really is. Crimeny.

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Originally Posted by Quick Enough

Why are you so obsessed with SOME OF THOSE?

Are you obsessed with some people who drive. There are car accidents everyday?

Are you obsessed with the millions of peole who legally own guns.

I can never figure out why the left has such fear for people who believe in God.

I'm not on the left, Einstein. I've owned a Walther P38 for over 30 years. I've been shooting since I was a child. Sorry to hurt your good vs. evil worldview feelings, but most humans are more complex than you think they are, your apparent simplistic mindset aside. Your reading comprehension is awful. I mentioned nothing about fear. Just because believers may be guided by fear doesn't mean everyone is.