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Since when does medicare pay for Viagra? Your money you've put into medicare is not being frittered away on viagra and elective medicine. It's being frittered away on elderly patients and the families of elderly patients who refuse to realize it just might be their time to go or worse are noncompliant with their lifestyles or unrealistic about their own health. I see it day in and day out. You know how many patients come into my unit because they had a fall at home and hit their head??????????????? You know how many patients come into my unit after having a massive stroke and the family, usually the daughter, would rather see her mother **** and defecate all over herself instead of sending her home on hospice or making her a DNR? You know how many elderly patients come into the hospital with C-Difficile and use up copious amounts of vancomycin and other powerful but increasingly resistant antibiotics??????? No sweetie your medicare dollars are being frittered away for much bigger reasons than some 65 year old wanting to have an erection.
My mother died at 93 after living 3 years in assisted living (paid by her own funds + nominal assistance from the state). She was able to live a full life until around age 87, when she began her mental decline. She had no desire to live a life of no meaning and so executed a Living Will. When she entered the hospital for the last time, the ER staff had already intubated her, even though the AFL had a copy of her LW. I insisted that they follow my mother's wishes and they removed the tube. She died two days later without ever regaining consciousness.
Most enlightened Americans recognize that quality of life trumps quantity and have end of life directives. Education regarding EOL directives is desperately needed. Everyone should have a living will - no matter their age.
My mother died at 93 after living 3 years in assisted living (paid by her own funds + nominal assistance from the state). She was able to live a full life until around age 87, when she began her mental decline. She had no desire to live a life of no meaning and so executed a Living Will. When she entered the hospital for the last time, the ER staff had already intubated her, even though the AFL had a copy of her LW. I insisted that they follow my mother's wishes and they removed the tube. She died two days later without ever regaining consciousness.
Most enlightened Americans recognize that quality of life trumps quantity and have end of life directives. Education regarding EOL directives is desperately needed. Everyone should have a living will - no matter their age.
That's the problem you and your mother are a minority. Yes MOST should. Just like MOST should eat healthy and be responsible. MOST are not. So the rest of us enlightened ones have to pick up the slack and subsidize those aren't. That's part of the problem with America nowadays. Someone or something is always ready to bail out poor decisions and behavior. There are no consequences to anyone's actions anymore.
When its children who suffer the most? As a healthcare professional, I was reading an interesting blog. As a peds nurse I see many children who can't this or that done because there is no funding or they get rejected by insurance companies,meanwhile an elderly person who is 98 and on a ventilator ,and non responsive(brain dead) is getting her 5th. Hip surgery? Isn't that hip surgery unessesary at this point,meanwhile a child of 5 who is alert and has muscular dystrophy gets denied a wheelchair (and medicaid insurance) when they have a better prognosis than the elderly client? Or an elderly client who gets social security on top of getting a 3000 dollar pension and free medicare but we deny medicaid to the child who has cancer because the parents make 2000 a month? Tell me your opinions please
First of all, your hyperbole is insulting to anyone with a brain.
Second of all, the senior citizens of this country are responsible not only for creating the extraordinary quality of life that we enjoy because they are the ones who built the bridges, and the highways, and the dams *and* fought most of the wars that keep you and I safe and free.
Senior Citizens have worked their butts off building businesses, growing food, raising children (you and me, actually), that has made this country greater than any other country on earth. We owe them nothing but the greatest respect and an unbelievable debt of gratitude.
What, exactly, have children done? Statistically one out of three will be in jail or dead before the time they reach 50 (or if they are a minority 40). Children have PARENTS to support them and foot the bill, the elderly do not.
Children even have hospitals where they can receive FREE medical treatment such as St. Jude's and a host of other children's hospitals. The elderly do not have this option. Even with Medicare, often all medical expenses cannot be met and older people end up losing their homes and life savings to pay for medical expenses.
In addition, many children are are Medicaid because they live in an low-income household. With Medicaid prescriptions are covered, whereas with Medicare they are not.
First of all, your hyperbole is insulting to anyone with a brain.
Second of all, the senior citizens of this country are responsible not only for creating the extraordinary quality of life that we enjoy because they are the ones who built the bridges, and the highways, and the dams *and* fought most of the wars that keep you and I safe and free.
Senior Citizens have worked their butts off building businesses, growing food, raising children (you and me, actually), that has made this country greater than any other country on earth. We owe them nothing but the greatest respect and an unbelievable debt of gratitude.
Haha and your verbal diarrhea is just as insulting!! Senior citizens have built this country? Yeah maybe so but their spoiled baby boomer children have destroyed it.
First of all, your hyperbole is insulting to anyone with a brain.
Second of all, the senior citizens of this country are responsible not only for creating the extraordinary quality of life that we enjoy because they are the ones who built the bridges, and the highways, and the dams *and* fought most of the wars that keep you and I safe and free.
Senior Citizens have worked their butts off building businesses, growing food, raising children (you and me, actually), that has made this country greater than any other country on earth. We owe them nothing but the greatest respect and an unbelievable debt of gratitude.
What, exactly, have children done? Statistically one out of three will be in jail or dead before the time they reach 50 (or if they are a minority 40). Children have PARENTS to support them and foot the bill, the elderly do not.
Children even have hospitals where they can receive FREE medical treatment such as St. Jude's and a host of other children's hospitals. The elderly do not have this option. Even with Medicare, often all medical expenses cannot be met and older people end up losing their homes and life savings to pay for medical expenses.
In addition, many children are are Medicaid because they live in an low-income household. With Medicaid prescriptions are covered, whereas with Medicare they are not.
20yrsinBranson
You mean those seniors that denied basic human rights to certain races in this country?
Yeah,there so great huh?
The same ones who scream about welfare and medicaid but get at least 10x more than they paid into the system?
Yes those children I speak of have parents,but those seniors have children too.
You should see some of the ungrateful children in nursing homes dropping a parent off like its just another day.
For starters,I'm not talking about euthanasia or even taking away Medicare and SS(that will happen on its own).
I'm talking about Futile medical treatments.
Ok genius so just HOW MUCH do you think most elderly people have earned in order to pay for their hospitalizations later in life. I've love for your oh so intelligent thinking to enlighten us all on this fact? $50K? $100k? $1 million? Do you have any clue how expensive an MRI is or a 5 day stay in the hospital because some 98 year old fell and it was their time to go but instead the ambulance whisked them away to the ER and now they have to be saved. You have any clue how expensive it is and how many antibiotics are wasted on some 85 year old patient who's family refuses to let her die and go home on hospice? Don't for a SECOND act like you have ANY clue as to what goes on in the American healthcare system day in and day out least of all at the hospital level. I'm work directly in patient care on an acute level and it would boggle your mind how much money is wasted and how many healthcare resources are wasted on sad but true older people that should have died because it was just their time to go. We live in the real world where unfortunately not everyone is going to die silently in their sleep from congestive heart failure. No there are LOTS of elderly patients that refuse to live in a nursing home and cling to their unrealistic independent lifestyle and when they fall and hit their head expect to have every damn test, procedure, medicine thrown at them to help them get back to normal let alone live? It's unsustainable.
SO back to my question......HOW MUCH DO ELDERLY PEOPLE DESERVE TO BE SPENT ON THEM? Do we pay for a noncompliant 75 year old diabetic that refuses to quit having cake for breakfast and is in and out of the hospital for neuropathy, kidney failure, etc. because they have "paid into the system" their whole life? Gimme a break!
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Originally Posted by Had2SaySumthin
Really?
Because I know a guy who is a welder that puts in more work in a year than most people do in a lifetime. So does that mean he can quit, go on welfare, and be entitled to care and money until he dies?
Because he certainly worked a lot harder than most elderly men. He DEFINITELY worked a lot harder than most elderly women because in their time most didn't work, but stayed home.
So how do we gauge this?
you genuises heard of medicare?
now that is the medical care these older people have worked all their lives for and earned.
stop wanting to steal it.
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