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Illegal? Not really, shunned, looked down on, yes.
This isn't an issue of legality, it is an issue of proper definition.
Civil union is appropriate. Marriage is not, in fact it makes no sense without confusing the definition and considering its relevance legally, it is important that proper definition is recognized.
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Do the people who make that argument claim those are acceptable behaviors? If not, then your argument doesn't contest them.
Or are you simply stating that because others already are destroying it, people should just accept it and turn the valve wide open?
I contend that a homosexual's marriage, what they do and how it works out; has absolutely no bearing or reflection on the marriages of hetrosexuals.
In fact there are and always have been many, many long-term, life-long homsexual couples who remain loyal, faithful and commited to each other.
Just as there are and always have been hetro couples who do the same.
And both groups have their share of people who live a lifestyle of wild, promiscuous sexual exploits.
What others do in their marriages has no bearing on your individual marriages and the commitment and loyalty that may or may not exist. The only sanctity of marriage that exists, exists between each individual couple and hpw seriously they take their vows. What your neighbor and his wife do, have no reflection or bearing on your marriage.
To claim otherwise is pure nonsense.
Are you, as a hetrosexual, affected by homosexual's choice and methods of their sexual acts?
Does that make you a homosexual, because they do what they do? Does it some how reflect on your hetrosexual sexual acts or represent in any way or form your sexual lifestyle?
I contend that a homosexual's marriage, what they do and how it works out; has absolutely no bearing or reflection on the marriages of hetrosexuals.
In fact there are and always have been many, many long-term, life-long homsexual couples who remain loyal, faithful and commited to each other.
Just as there are and always have been hetro couples who do the same.
And both groups have their share of people who live a lifestyle of wild, promiscuous sexual exploits.
What others do in their marriages has no bearing on your individual marriages and the commitment and loyalty that may or may not exist. The only sanctity of marriage that exists, exists between each individual couple and hpw seriously they take their vows. What your neighbor and his wife do, have no reflection or bearing on your marriage.
To claim otherwise is pure nonsense.
Are you, as a hetrosexual, affected by homosexual's choice and methods of their sexual acts?
Does that make you a homosexual, because they do what they do? Does it some how reflect on your hetrosexual sexual acts or represent in any way or form your sexual lifestyle?
No, of course not.
Its not marriage. Homosexuals do not create bloodlines, they do not create a family tree. They can never do such, ever. This is the definition of marriage, not love. Many marriages were arranged with disregard for love.
None of your points mean anything in terms of my argument. /shrug
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That makes sense and should, but will not, satisfy conservatives who say they want the govt. out of their lives, but really love it.
Conservatives want the government out of their lives, when it comes to their own selfish topics and reasons.
But they sure as hell are all for supporting, advocating and pushing the government to get involved in every issue or topic that they, themselves, want the government involved in.
They're hypocrites.
Any conservatives turning down Social Security when they retire or when they suffer a life-changing and physically disabling injury or illness? Oh no, they most certainly will not. They'll take evey penny they can get and scream for more.
And I certainly know plenty of Repubs/Conservatives who were more than happy to collect foodstamps/EBT, Welfare and/or Medicaid. Oh no, when they are in need or their loved ones are in need; they certainly find justifications for it and collect the money/support.
Illegal? Not really, shunned, looked down on, yes.
This isn't an issue of legality, it is an issue of proper definition.
Civil union is appropriate. Marriage is not, in fact it makes no sense without confusing the definition and considering its relevance legally, it is important that proper definition is recognized.
And what should I consider "proper" definition, and what is the basis of said definition?
Because, you know, the definition of "marriage" has never, ever, ever been changed....
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Its not marriage. Homosexuals do not create bloodlines, they do not create a family tree. They can never do such, ever. This is the definition of marriage, not love.
There are hundreds of thousands of hetrosexual couples who make a conscience choice to not have children. They end their own bloodline, right there. They create no future family tree.
So by your unique definition, they are not in marriages. Despite having gone through the motions of getting married, right?
How absurd.
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