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Old 05-13-2010, 05:22 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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That's a stretch. Americans of Irish decent are also proud to be Americans. You think John, Robert, or Ted Kennedy would have had a problem with someone with an American flag on Saint Patrick's Day? The problem with Cinco de Mayo is some Mexicans here in America are not legal to be here and some have been raise with the La Raza view of the brown people taking back the southwestern part of the United States for Mexico.
Brown people
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Brown people
That's how local latinos refer to themselves. We have many working at our hospital in housekeeping and in the construction crews around the hospital.
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:29 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Forgot to add that the American flag students are also hispanic so it wasn't a case of racism either.
They are ethnically mixed according to the article, at least the two mentioned.

Maybe there have been riots before and the school is a bit sensitive about all this The school is 40% Hispanic, makes me think of some schools in Germany where there are similar problems regarding Turks There is even a Turkish "organization" corresponding to La Raza in your country, promoting racism and nationalism abroad
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Are you serious? It was Cinco de Mayo.
And?

Does that mean the US flag should be furled up and put away?
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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celebrate diversity

Let's tell the Hispanic students that their flag is too upsetting or offensive. What would happen then?
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:18 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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mark this day on the calendar - even the ACLU has more on the ball than our resident 'bots
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Old 05-13-2010, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Surprise, surprise! Wing nuts from both sides, making a big issue out of nothing.
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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dude seriously. how can you not freaking see that the guys wanted to start something. denial.
What did they intend to start? They were minding their own business, in clothes that they wear with some regularity, displaying colors and representations of the flag. Why should anyone else care? It was the overly sensitive Mexican students who were looking to start something, who couldn't mind their own business. It wasn't enough for them to celebrate their own holiday, they have to make sure everyone else honors their Mexican holiday as well??? Idiots. Are we going to start celebrating ALL of the Mexican holidays now? How about we fly a Mexican flag outside of the school instead of an American flag? After all.....we don't want the Mexican students to think we are trying to 'start something'.

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Are you serious? It was Cinco de Mayo.
So the hell what? It could have been Potato Salad day for all I care. What does Cinco de Mayo have to do with the USA? It isn't an American holiday, it doesn't even commemorate anything to do with the USA...it commemorates a battle between MEXICO and FRANCE. If the Mexican students wanted to celebrate it then good for them....but what does that have to do with anyone else choosing to celebrate or not celebrate? The school board KNOWS the assistant priciple was wrong and violated school policy, probably state law as well as the first amendment rights of those students.

Those students have the right to wear WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT even if some Mexican students don't like it. Let them go knock their heads against the wall but it isn't anyone's problem but theirs.

If the assistant principal had any sort of brain he would have addressed the 'concern' from a first amendment perspective but instead he decided to be political and HE was the one who let this get out of hand. He should be fired if for no other reason than that he is an idiot.
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:50 AM
 
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He was acting as more than just a messenger...then I say shoot the messenger....by firing him....
No, they sent home the messengers (the kids). The problem is wearing the American flag wasn't just that!! Those kids came to send a message and to humiliate (they won't admit it) the Mexican students and mess up their day. That's the problem with these kind of people. They think the world revolves around them and they try to use the law to allow them to get away with it. No, there is nothing wrong with wearing American flags and clothing to school. But, why on this day??? Did they wear these clothing last week, last month, last year?? No, the wore it on the 5th of May to stir up trouble and their stupid, selfish, and racist parents condone that. To say that can't stick out 5 students.. they stuck their own self out when those 5 choose to prove a point. The thing I hate most is the kids nor their parents will admit the true reason they did this and that is a coward way of doing things. I am glad they sent them home and although it was over turned, I’m quite sure the students had no attention on continuing to wear those clothing any other day!!
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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No, they sent home the messengers (the kids). The problem is wearing the American flag wasn't just that!! Those kids came to send a message and to humiliate (they won't admit it) the Mexican students and mess up their day. That's the problem with these kind of people. They think the world revolves around them and they try to use the law to allow them to get away with it. No, there is nothing wrong with wearing American flags and clothing to school. But, why on this day??? Did they wear these clothing last week, last month, last year?? No, the wore it on the 5th of May to stir up trouble and their stupid, selfish, and racist parents condone that. To say that can't stick out 5 students.. they stuck their own self out when those 5 choose to prove a point. The thing I hate most is the kids nor their parents will admit the true reason they did this and that is a coward way of doing things. I am glad they sent them home and although it was over turned, I’m quite sure the students had no attention on continuing to wear those clothing any other day!!
Well why don't you use your crystal ball and tell us what everyone's motives are? They said they were showing patriotism....just because you think differently doesn't make it so. BTW....isnt' that what the Hispanic students were doing by wearing Mexican colors and flags?? FYI, the students said they wear those clothes (or other patriotic themed clothes) with some regularity. They weren't acting up, they were sitting minding their own business. The assistant principal didn't say they were causing any trouble, but that others were complaining about their shirts.

What do you think political speech of any sort does....IT SENDS A MESSAGE, genius.....that's what the first amendment protects. You don't have to like the message but you don't have the right to silence it either.

How would Mexican students be humiliated by an American flag? How do some students wearing American flag and colors mess up their day for the Mexican students who were decked out in their colors and flags? That's kind of stupid and immature.

Newsflash THEY CAN WEAR WHATEVER THEY WANT FOR WHATEVER REASON and it's still protected speech. The first amendment isn't only to protect speech that everyone likes or agrees with.....is that difficult for you to understand? You can show pride for your country, you can protest a war, you can wear pink on breast cancer awareness day or Mexican colors on Cinco de Miracle Whip, you can wear an American flag t-shirt or a gay pride shirt and if anyone doesn't like it it's their problem.

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No, there is nothing wrong with wearing American flags and clothing to school. But, why on this day???
Why not on that day or any other day they want? THIS IS AMERICA and those students don't have to sacrifice their free speech because some pansy Mexican students don't understand the first amendment and what it means. Unfortunately, their assistant principal doesn't understand it either.

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