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Old 09-14-2010, 01:48 PM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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How am I off topic when I'm responding to your post?
Does that mean that your post is off topic, as well?
Or is this how you respond when you have no answer?
Yes it does mean my response was off topic as well. Also, there is an answer, just not one that you're heart is genuinely interested in learning. (if I am wrong i apologize)

The OP has absolutely nothing to do with proof of existence in God (your god-thingy) first then debate dem or pub.

The babble post was my attempt to get you to see that and swing the posts back into the debate. I gave may answer and said, He would be neither as it was politics that hung His Son, on the cross.

However, you did ask a question and even though I know it is most probable a pointless effort on my part and it would be better not to engage you....

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As a graduate student in physical chemistry in the 1970s, I was an atheist, finding no reason to postulate the existence of any truths outside of mathematics, physics and chemistry
Collins: Why this scientist believes in God - CNN
But reason alone cannot prove the existence of God. Faith is reason plus revelation, and the revelation part requires one to think with the spirit as well as with the mind. You have to hear the music, not just read the notes on the page. Ultimately, a leap of faith is required.
People are changing all the time as they learn and apply that which they learn. Some people though, they never change.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:54 PM
 
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That's exactly how I feel about the myth believing christers. They never change, even though they have no proof of a god thingy.
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Old 09-14-2010, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Not sure if this is the right section as its political and religious.
Was thinking he/she/it could be Democrat as he is like the ultimate big government and is our ultimate saviour and we are just the children to be tended and looked after..
Or he/she/it could be Republican because although he/she/it is all powerful we are certainly left to run our own destinies with little intervention.
Or would he/she/it be something else..

Saying God is either a Democrat or Republican IS TAKING THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN. God thought enough to include this as one of the acts specifically included as a violation of God's Law the 10 Commandments given to Moses.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:20 PM
 
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Hmmm, questions remaining:

Who knows that God does not have a beginning? This is just an assumption. And why is Nr.1 true?
This would be a question for GOD believing scientist. As they say, it's all about faith, you either have it or you don't. I will take these scientist assumption.........at least they didn't deal with the pressure, like Darwin did.

Einstien..........A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."


Issac Newton........"The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being."

Galileo............ expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts.

Darwin........never was an Atheist, he was Agnostic
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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That's exactly how I feel about the myth believing christers. They never change, even though they have no proof of a god thingy.
You really have no proof that the God Thingy, doesn't exist, now do you???
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:02 AM
 
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This would be a question for GOD believing scientist. As they say, it's all about faith, you either have it or you don't. I will take these scientist assumption.........at least they didn't deal with the pressure, like Darwin did.

Einstien..........A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."


Issac Newton........"The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being."

Galileo............ expressly said that the Bible cannot err, and saw his system as an alternate interpretation of the biblical texts.

Darwin........never was an Atheist, he was Agnostic
Well I asked you and not some scientist. They, just as you and me, don't know if there is a GOD or not. But noone including you could answer my questions above, so we are still all clueless. Let people decide then for themselves if they want to believe or not and lets not act like there definitely is God or not (generally speaking).
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:05 AM
 
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You really have no proof that the God Thingy, doesn't exist, now do you???
My problem with this questions is:

You have no proof that little, funny-looking aliens don't exist and there is no way to prove it.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:07 AM
 
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You really have no proof that the God Thingy, doesn't exist, now do you???
As you know, you're the one asserting that a god thing does exist.
It is incumbent upon you to produce proof.

I'm not asserting that anything exists, am I?
Why would I be expected to provide proof that something doesn't.
Do you have proof that santa, peter pan and the troll under the bridge don't exist?

Please explain your logic.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:30 AM
Status: "It Can't Rain All The Time" (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: North Pacific
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That's exactly how I feel about the myth believing christers. They never change, even though they have no proof of a god thingy.
One can not change that which is perfect to begin with as that would then make an imperfection out of a masterpiece. It's all in how we project ourselves that reveals that which has been made whole.

Our government is a perfect example of that which is imperfect. They are the shysters of this world.

Man alone, can not bring hope and change to people.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:36 AM
 
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One can not change that which is perfect to begin with as that would then make an imperfection out of a masterpiece. It's all in how we project ourselves that reveals that which has been made whole.

Our government is a perfect example of that which is imperfect. They are the shysters of this world.

Man alone, can not bring hope and change to people.
And this constitutes proof of a god thing?
Am I missing something? Like proof, or facts, or anything; can't you toss me a little bit of proof other than your opinion?

I guess not.
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