"We're not racists, but here's why we're pissed about blacks and immigrants."

[Cunucu Beach]

Thanks to tworent for posting this video in another thread //www.city-data.com/forum/14137304-post1.html

Sane, sensible and with a good grip on both reality and history.


YouTube - A Lil' Somethin' On Illegal Immigration

[Gilpin Girl]

Originally Posted by MPC2000

Teabaggers need to get a life and realize that this country IS turning brown, and they should welcome the "new" immigrants as much as they did the Italians, the Irish and whoever came after the Puritans did.

We are!! Immigrants have never been welcome. And usually receive the harshest treatment from the previous group of immigrants. I personally think immigrants are great. However, I'm repulsed by the utter lack of respect for our immigration laws. We are a nation of laws. Illegal immigrants have demonstrated that they have no respect for the laws and by extension no respect for America or Americans. I don't want to live next to anyone who treats me and my country with callous disregard; I don't care what their skin color is.

[Ceece]

As far as the title of the thread goes this is what I'm seeing; people don't WANT to be racist or prejudiced. Disregard the fringe (who are everything bad you can imagine and worse) and concentrate solely on those in the middle and I fully believe this. The problem is that with certain minority groups there is often limited POSITIVE interaction or publicity. There is also class distinctions that often gets confused with racism. Throw into that a difference in attitude, lifestyle, tradition, etc. of people from different countries and you get people who say "I'm not racist BUT...". And I completely understand that.

Sometimes the difference between groups of people can be enriching, but sometimes they can be destructive. It seems like many people on both sides refuse to acknowledge this.

[Cpt Obvious]

you all act like you like blacks here, but I'm certain behind closed doors you say the N word over and over. Stop being so pc and be yourselves for once.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by Cpt Obvious

you all act like you like blacks here, but I'm certain behind closed doors you say the N word over and over. Stop being so pc and be yourselves for once.

Finsih your homework early?

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by delusianne

You used a lot of bandwidth attacking "liberals," but you never did answer the question, so I'll ask ya again. What parts of the piece specifically do you deny are true?

Though this is my first comment in the thread, I'll take a shot at it. I'm pretty familiar with Cesca, and all of the junk he has written. Basically, he starts with the conclusion and then seeks out pieces of information to support his preset conclusion(s).

In this case, the Tea Party folks have legitimate concerns about the future direction of the country. Unlike liberals, they actually understand that enhanced or new programs have a significant cost, and that when they are established or expanded not only are folks required to pay more for the "benefit", they also lose more control over their discretion to participate in the program.

The issue about a middle class tax cut is very temporary, smart folks in the Tea Party movement understand that Obama has assembled a team to evaluate how to close the deficit, and has taken his pledge of not increasing taxes on the middle class and others off the table for those discussions. Per Obama's charter to the group:

“everything has to be on the table” as part of the commission’s deliberations. “We’re not playing that game,” Obama said. “I’m not going to say what’s in; I’m not going to say what’s out. I want this commission to be free to do its work.”

So, though I may not completely agree with Tea Party sentiments, I certainly can see why they have concerns and wouldn't call them racists at all. While certain sub-elements in the movement likely have some racist type of issues, it would be unfair and inaccurate to label the movement with that sentiment.

But liberals don't understand this, and tend to just see things in black and white (literally and figuratively).

Should be a fun November though.