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Old 04-04-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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Do a Google search on: NFL players go broke. The figure 78% will be repeated ad nauseaum.
I'm not researching it... The burden of proof is on you since you spouting it.


And I know it's it's not 78%... 3/4 of the league!!! If you believe that then I have some beachfront property for sale in Tennessee.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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I'm not researching it... The burden of proof is on you since you spouting it.


And I know it's it's not 78%... 3/4 of the league!!! If you believe that then I have some beachfront property for sale in Tennessee.
So, five minutes on the internet is too much of a burden for you? Or, will the truth be too much to handle?
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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This is all you need to know from this article...

A 2009 study by professors from Fresno State University, the University of Georgia and Towson State found no connection between Wonderlic scores and performance during the first three years of a player's NFL career. The group studied 762 players from the 2002, 2003 and 2004 draft classes.

John W. Michel, an assistant professor at Towson University who co-authored the study, told the Washington Post: "We found in no cases was cognitive ability related to (football) performance. We did find a negative relationship for tight ends and defensive backs. For defensive backs, it was the most pronounced; basically, the lower you scored on the Wonderlic, the better you performed."
I would like to see what his definition of performance is, because it looks like there is a pretty clear positive correlation between QB performance and Wonderlic.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:58 PM
 
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I quit paying attention to the Wonderlic a very long time ago.

Dan Marino scored a 16. Matt Leinart scored a 35.

It's a prediction of nothing, IMO.
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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I would like to see what his definition of performance is, because it looks like there is a pretty clear positive correlation between QB performance and Wonderlic.
Did you even read the full sentence? It clearly said for Defensive Backs!!!
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If the Wonderlic score doesn't matter and is useless and doesn't predict a players performance or intelligence of such then why does the NFL still use this test???

It must mean something.... at least it does to NFL teams.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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If the Wonderlic score doesn't matter and is useless and doesn't predict a players performance or intelligence of such then why does the NFL still use this test???

It must mean something.... at least it does to NFL teams.
the NFL is so hyped about everything, they measure the guys hands, they measure their arms and wingspan, oftentimes they won't draft a tackle (or let him fall) if his wingspan is outside the norm all the while forgetting to ask the real question: can he actually play?

so a guy can bench press 235# x-times in a minuet... the bench press is a push muscle exercise, certainly not important for everyone equally,

"look at the guns on that running back", well the biceps are pull muscles, how often does a running back pull something towards him?

it could be argued the wonderlic may be more important to QB's but we've already seen Marino's score vs. Leinarts.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:31 AM
 
Location: NJ
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It must mean something.... at least it does to NFL teams.
If it did then players that got low scores wouldn't get drafted. Or not drafted early. And that is clearly not the case.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If it did then players that got low scores wouldn't get drafted. Or not drafted early. And that is clearly not the case.
it's all part of the equation that the NFL uses.. if it was useless, they wouldn't waste their time with it.. A top 5 talent getting a low wonderlic score is not gonna keep teams from drafting him... but a marginal player with a low score could easily go undrafted simply because of that low score...

It means something.. its not everything but it certainly more than nothing..
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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No personal attacks!

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