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It seems like many people, while not admitting to it, seem to live almost completely refusing to acknowledge some of the most basic and widely recognized tenets of psychology. In their view, they consciously control every aspect of their personality and behavior, and the environment they were raised in, their childhood experiences, neurological makeup or unconscious mind have nothing to do with it.
I find these people really frustrating to deal with. Why are there so many of them? Why don't they get called on their ignorance more?
It seems like many people, while not admitting to it, seem to live almost completely refusing to acknowledge some of the most basic and widely recognized tenets of psychology. In their view, they consciously control every aspect of their personality and behavior, and the environment they were raised in, their childhood experiences, neurological makeup or unconscious mind have nothing to do with it.
I find these people really frustrating to deal with. Why are there so many of them? Why don't they get called on their ignorance more?
There many reasons and they are all multi-faceted. One is cultural we live in shape our own destiny rhetoric where everything is on the individual and nothing else. This attitude can be taken to the extremes and folks don't want to be called out on it. The other is a lot of Psychological terms get thrown around too much with people not fully understanding them. This annoys me the most especially on this and many other forums where people think they understand the terms extrovert, introvert and are just going off dumb down definitions of them. Also I can't count how many times people use the word anti social out of context.
The reason you can't call them out is that it is a numbers games. There are many cliques and group think going on and questioning it will get you know where because you are either "complaining" or "just don't get it".
So its a combination of our boot straps culture and people cherry picking terms that support their views.
....The other is a lot of Psychological terms get thrown around too much with people not fully understanding them. This annoys me the most especially on this and many other forums where people think they understand the terms extrovert, introvert and are just going off dumb down definitions of them. Also I can't count how many times people use the word anti social out of context....
Since you've got it down, why don't you quickly define each those terms in your own words. You could also provide an example of how people use 'antisocial' out of context. I think that will help us reading this thread better understand what you are saying.
It seems like many people, while not admitting to it, seem to live almost completely refusing to acknowledge some of the most basic and widely recognized tenets of psychology. In their view, they consciously control every aspect of their personality and behavior, and the environment they were raised in, their childhood experiences, neurological makeup or unconscious mind have nothing to do with it.
I find these people really frustrating to deal with. Why are there so many of them? Why don't they get called on their ignorance more?
I think the people you describe are either in denial (don't want to see their own BS), don't have the reasoning and conceptual ability necessary, or are just uneducated. I think people who don't even care should still be able to recognize at least basic psychological devices from and through experience interacting with others or paying attention to themselves.
Since you've got it down, why don't you quickly define each those terms in your own words. You could also provide an example of how people use 'antisocial' out of context. I think that will help us reading this thread better understand what you are saying.
These are a bit crude and to the point.
extrovert gets energy from social interaction
introvert gets energy from down time.
An example usually quiet is seen among people who are introverted but introvert does not mean that a person is quiet if you get my drift. Also an extrovert can enjoy a big gathering but at the same time not be the life of the party.
The antisocial gets me because usually if someone is shy, reserved and others similar to those definition they are said to be anti social. That basically saying a shy person is a murderer, sociopath and all around criminal for being shy. Also the fact that being shy is seen as a disease to some folks doesn't help either.
These are a bit crude and to the point.
extrovert gets energy from social interaction
introvert gets energy from down time.
An example usually quiet is seen among people who are introverted but introvert does not mean that a person is quiet if you get my drift. Also an extrovert can enjoy a big gathering but at the same time not be the life of the party.
The antisocial gets me because usually if someone is shy, reserved and others similar to those definition they are said to be anti social. That basically saying a shy person is a murderer, sociopath and all around criminal for being shy. Also the fact that being shy is seen as a disease to some folks doesn't help either.
Thanks. You've really touched on something I see as a very serious problem with that last paragraph. I, too, am concerned that people unjustly and ignorantly think horrible things about shy individuals (and slightly awkward individuals), especially today when these mass shootings are instilling fear within our society. I think the suspicion toward those who are 'shy' collectively makes for a large negative effect.
When it comes to being shy there is also the huge problem in the US that almost everyone has been exposed to mercury through vaccines or food and is therefore on the aspergers / autism spectrum some where. Normally they either have enough control over it or it is too mild to be detected over just being shy.
However it is really hard for someone who has studied and understood psychology to be around normal people. It's the study of human behaviour, why we do the things we do. IE why we think we know it all or don't need to know it all. Not knowing it is like not knowing how to operate yourself and making endless stupid obvious mistakes with no hope of improving - that or improving in a predictable manner.
They don't get called on their ignorance more because there is an overwhelmingly huge amount of them. They don't teach anything worth while like psychology in grade school. So little people get the chance to leave plato's cave...
These are a bit crude and to the point.
extrovert gets energy from social interaction
introvert gets energy from down time.
An example usually quiet is seen among people who are introverted but introvert does not mean that a person is quiet if you get my drift. Also an extrovert can enjoy a big gathering but at the same time not be the life of the party.
The antisocial gets me because usually if someone is shy, reserved and others similar to those definition they are said to be anti social. That basically saying a shy person is a murderer, sociopath and all around criminal for being shy. Also the fact that being shy is seen as a disease to some folks doesn't help either.
The funny thing is (from what I understand) in psychological terminology, someone with an 'anti social' personality disorder is not someone who is shy or reserved at all.. it's the extreme (disordered) end of the adventurous personality trait..so quite the opposite really!
The funny thing is (from what I understand) in psychological terminology, someone with an 'anti social' personality disorder is not someone who is shy or reserved at all.. it's the extreme (disordered) end of the adventurous personality trait..so quite the opposite really!
I had to correct my friends on the terms because people would stick that label on my roommate back in college which I felt was really off base.
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