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Just out of curiosity what is MRA? I'm afraid to do a Google search on it.
It's kind of funny, actually. They are a group of men who support the traditional feminist positions around divorce -- that child custody and alimony should not be based on gender, etc. -- except they are rabidly anti-feminist.
If you read further, you will see that many of the MRA guys say divorce should be illegal, though. They particularly emphasise that women should not be allowed to initiate divorce. And many of them publicly admit to having been charged and/or convicted of spousal abuse or child abuse.
Many of the prominent PUA posters are also active on MRA sites, and vice versa. Collectively PUA and MRA together call themselves the 'manosphere'.
I just read the chilling transcripts from a video posted by the Santa Barbara killer. I was struck by how eerily similar his rhetoric is to some of the young guys who post here. I understand he also posted at bodybuilding.com like many of the guys that come here lamenting the fact that they can't "get a female."
Of course my post title is facetious. But I wonder if getting enmeshed in an Internet community where such ideas are supported may be perpetuating the isolation and disconnection to reality. What can we in our own lives do? If anything?
My reaction in hearing his story was: smart girls. I bet most their comments was "creepy" who he talked about who meet him.But then there are also women like that.
It's kind of funny, actually. They are a group of men who support the traditional feminist positions around divorce -- that child custody and alimony should not be based on gender, etc. -- except they are rabidly anti-feminist.
If you read further, you will see that many of the MRA guys say divorce should be illegal, though. They particularly emphasise that women should not be allowed to initiate divorce. And many of them publicly admit to having been charged and/or convicted of spousal abuse or child abuse.
Many of the prominent PUA posters are also active on MRA sites, and vice versa. Collectively PUA and MRA together call themselves the 'manosphere'.
Thank you Ms. NilaJones for clarifying that, the things I learn on City Data. I don't know anything about MRA, thankfully. I'm not even going to go to those sites to find out.
He'd had problems with males, including a roommate and general bullying. He was messed-up and creepy and I wouldn't expect women to date him.
But what also is messed-up is the title of the thread. Is what happened funny? I don't know if most lonely men think the women they like should date them, but I'm sure many of them are frustrated with common female behaviors and attitudes. Rejecting in nasty ways, shooting down guys very fast for not creating instant sparks, using men for free drinks or free meals, having ridiculous standards (e.g., being average-looking and expecting a rich stud), using Facebook and online dating for pseudo-companionship and ego-feeding, putting little real effort into being attractive (e.g., obesity, enmeshment with moms, and cat-hoarding), giving disingenuous dating-related advice to men, etc. Those are things the sisterhood should address, lest other guys violently lash out or probably directly or indirectly kill just themselves at high rates. Men are doing many things wrong, too, by the way, and perhaps also some genetically lousy men (like the Santa Barbara shooter) never should have been born. The sexes can get along better with each other, if enough people make the effort.
Last edited by goodheathen; 05-24-2014 at 10:19 PM..
I can assure you, as someone much older than the shooter, someone who has a life-long history of failure in the love department, homicide has never crossed my mind.
I suspect this kid would have carried out a heinous act anyway, regardless of the source of his anger. If not lack of sex, something else would have triggered his mental instability at some point.
I doubt it. Being cut out of the gene pool is hardly a minor thing.
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