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I think I find the idea of men who act a bit like women, suffer from shyness, enjoy "girly" activities like shopping, aren't super-sexual, aren't that concerned about "being manly," appear to have a cleaning or organizing addiction, know how to socialize, are into traditionally feminine pursuits like cosmetology or jewelry making, yet are still somehow into dating women, absolutely awesome! I want one! Do other women feel the same?
Frankly, I find guys who strive to have a more "traditional" male role a turn-off. I view most regular men to be immature, whiny, and demanding and find it refreshing when I encounter a man who steps out of his bubble and breaks a few stereotypes without fear of being called "weird." I view men who may be a bit more familiar with the female experience as mature and sophisticated. Yes, the media makes people believe this, but I've found non-traditional guys to be really refreshing for as long as I can remember.
Guys and girls who have been in relationships, what's your take on this? Do femme guys have as high an opinion of themselves as we may have of them?
I think I find the idea of men who act a bit like women, suffer from shyness, enjoy "girly" activities like shopping, aren't super-sexual, aren't that concerned about "being manly," appear to have a cleaning or organizing addiction, know how to socialize, are into traditionally feminine pursuits like cosmetology or jewelry making, yet are still somehow into dating women, absolutely awesome! I want one! Do other women feel the same?
Frankly, I find guys who strive to have a more "traditional" male role a turn-off. I view most regular men to be immature, whiny, and demanding and find it refreshing when I encounter a man who steps out of his bubble and breaks a few stereotypes without fear of being called "weird." I view men who may be a bit more familiar with the female experience as mature and sophisticated. Yes, the media makes people believe this, but I've found non-traditional guys to be really refreshing for as long as I can remember.
Guys and girls who have been in relationships, what's your take on this? Do femme guys have as high an opinion of themselves as we may have of them?
I find what I bolded to be not true. It's a fact that it has hurt me. My ex-wife threw this subject in my face when we broke up. I feel I am an outcast with women's opinions of men like myself. I do not fit typical guy stereotypes as I'm not into guns, violence, or American football.
I have a lot of traits you mentioned except the socialize and making jewelry part. I am a regular at a nail salon which I hardly ever see men. Although I am a loner I am into grooming. I do it for myself.
I'm a girly man but I'm kind of a slob. That's why I'm SOL. But I find it hard to believe that there are many women like you who don't prefer a "man's man".
I prefer a man who defines himself, whatever he honestly likes or is into, and who thinks I'm a great catch for all the best reasons. Couldn't care less if he likes football or shopping, frankly, I don't like either. Would also enjoy if he liked me defining myself whether or not my definition included "girly" or "not-girly" things. A real man defines himself.
I prefer a man who defines himself, whatever he honestly likes or is into, and who thinks I'm a great catch for all the best reasons. Couldn't care less if he likes football or shopping, frankly, I don't like either. Would also enjoy if he liked me defining myself whether or not my definition included "girly" or "not-girly" things. A real man defines himself.
Exactly! That's one reason I think a lot of us prefer men who are into things that are not traditionally male stuff. It shows that he's willing to set himself apart from the crowd, and that's a sign of maturity.
I also like a guy who is into me for the right reasons; I'm not a fan of someone who seems like he is just after coitus or needs a drudge around the house because he is too lazy to do things for himself. I also like a guy who believes it's okay to share his feelings.
I like um tough as nails. Nothing wrong with a fem guy, just doesn't work for me. ... I am just a little freaky. My bad!
This is the norm. It's why I have no chance.
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