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Old 01-01-2017, 07:20 AM
 
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Are people really this fragile?!

Let's get one thing straight. By any objective measure, there was an average # of 'celeb' deaths this year.

But my god, the sheer volume of static out there about people being devastated by the carnage, and gutted and depressed about it, seriously, this is just for show, right?

Sure, when Bowie died, I may have cranked up the volume on 'Heroes,' and when Carrie Fisher died I went looking for my copy of 'Postcards,' and in general I probably paused for maybe a moment and thought kind thoughts for them and their families. But....that's it.

It starts to devalue actual devastating events like the death of a spouse or child or parent, or heck even a lifelong pet or friend. Or an illness diagnosis or job loss. Those things are worth being devastated over. How are these people going to handle those kinds of events??
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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Its what makes "us" human..we feel for others.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:29 AM
 
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Its what makes "us" human..we feel for others.
That's kinda the point though... People die every day. Look around.

But when a celebrity dies people lose their minds over it - or at least post it on Facebook for everybody to think they're losing their minds. A friend of mine posted a big dramatic, "DEBBIE REYNOLDS TOO?!?! **** YOU 2016!!"

She didn't know Debbie Reynolds, or Carrie Fisher either one personally, so why the drama?
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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I don't get it either. I think about the celebrity for a minute or a little while, then that's it. I don't understand why people believe celebrities' lives and deaths are so much more important than others. Robin Williams is no more important than John Smith, an accountant from Boise, Idaho. The fact that Robin was in tons of movies and made zillions of dollars doesn't make his death any more of a loss to humanity. John Smith's friends and family will miss him. John's loss will leave a void in this world, as will Robin's.

Recognition doesn't equal importance to me. Contribution to society it more of a factor. I will say that celebrities usually do a lot of philanthropic work and in that way they contribute much to the world. But the actual absence of them in movies, TV, and music should not make them superior to anyone else.
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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That's kinda the point though... People die every day. Look around.

But when a celebrity dies people lose their minds over it - or at least post it on Facebook for everybody to think they're losing their minds. A friend of mine posted a big dramatic, "DEBBIE REYNOLDS TOO?!?! **** YOU 2016!!"

She didn't know Debbie Reynolds, or Carrie Fisher either one personally, so why the drama?
You know I really wouldn't take some dramatic posting on social media seriously. If your friend was this histrionic about a celebrities death in real life then yeah but on the internet people tend to exaggerate their emotions.
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:58 PM
 
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famous people /celebrities,,, and the wealthy cannot buy the one thing we eventually run out of and that's "time"

its a reminder like the tabloids....,.even the beautiful people are messed up and of course die


I do think some celebrity deaths stings...because often its a reminder of how old we are getting ,,,,, too
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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The deaths of Carrie and Debbie were notable in their quick succession but other than that, they were both of the age where natural death happens. There was nothing notable about either death.


When a celebrity dies from drugs or some other self-inflicted form of stupidity, I shake my head and don't bother thinking much about them. Just another suicidal idiot.


I don't get the worship of celebrities in any form. They are mere mortals, like the rest of us.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:16 PM
 
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It's my belief that a lot of people lack real friendships and celebrities are what replaces them. That the real issue -- too many people living life on their devices instead of really living.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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We go through our daily routines in this world focusing on living and pushing away thoughts of death. When a celebrity passes on it is someone we instantly recognize. A popular entertainer, respected community leader or sports figure. It reminds us of the fragility and short tenure of life itself. When we mourn a celebrity we mourn ourselves.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:02 PM
 
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That's kinda the point though... People die every day. Look around.

But when a celebrity dies people lose their minds over it - or at least post it on Facebook for everybody to think they're losing their minds. A friend of mine posted a big dramatic, "DEBBIE REYNOLDS TOO?!?! **** YOU 2016!!"

She didn't know Debbie Reynolds, or Carrie Fisher either one personally, so why the drama?
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My wife, however, who in all other respects does not follow nor is impressed by celebrity, invariably becomes maudlin when an entertainer or actor dies that she identifies with her own salad days or whose circumstances are relatable to her (for example, she is the same sort of rather over-devoted mother as Debbie Reynolds was). So this year, when Bowie and Prince died for example she was playing their music and rather obsessing about them for days after. The reason of course is that it is a way of processing the fact of her own mortality and advancing years. In a way it's letting go of anchor points of her own past.

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