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Old 10-17-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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Seriously??? What man invites a woman he meets in a bar over to his house to do housecleaning the same night he meets her????

It doesn't frigging matter WHY he invited her, or WHERE he invited her. Like I said, it may very well been that she wanted a roll in the sheets. But IF she was unconscious, then she could not give consent to what was happening to her body.


Do you blame the victim when a child is molested by his coach, or his priest or his teacher? I mean...after all, those kids THOUGHT their coach, priest or teacher or the next door neighbor or their own damn parent had better intentions than to molest or assault.

 
Old 10-17-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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Poor judgment is not a criminal offense. Rape is. No women regardless of her good or bad decisions is giving a man permission to rape her. Stop blaming the victim and put the blame where it 100% belongs on the perp.

I find the fact that some people still think "well, based on her behavior, she must have been asking for it" is a mitigating factor when a woman is raped or otherwise assaulted. Disgusting and shameful.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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And yet some of them are all too willing to hand it over/trust it to someone else. In this case, as in far too many, someone she had no idea if he deserves to receive that trust from any woman. Men who are going to invite a woman they've never met before over to their place alone have only one thing in mind, and it isn't drinking tea, playing cards and meaningful conversation. And any woman who would accept such an invitation is sending a message on a 100'x100' scarlet banner about the kind of person she is.

So, you're saying she deserved it. Because she maybe was looking for a hook up...she deserved to be raped.


Keep it up Contra. Bet you're glad this place is anonymous.


Mods...I've never asked, and hope I never ask again...but can we shut this subject down? It's pretty sickening.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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Hate to break it to you, but I am a woman, one who was raised old-school and watches the results of certain types of so-called "liberated" social behavior on the part of women with a mix of amusement and disgust.

I don't care what gender you are, you are blaming victims of assault. Does your victim blaming apply to a certain age group or does this apply to children and seniors also?
 
Old 10-17-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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Yes, she put herself into that position, but yes, he assaulted her. Assault is assault, no matter if she is a dumb, trampy biotch or not.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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When someone is walking down the middle of a busy street and gets hit by car, do people say, well maybe he shouldn't have been walking down the middle of the street?

When a person leaves a car unlocked in a shady part of town, do people say, hey next time LOCK YOU DOORS?

When someone in a casino is waving the stack of money he just won, exclaiming Wow Look how much I won, and gets robbed on his way out, do people say, probably shouldn't have announced you were carrying all that cash?

YES.

Common sense. Don't do stupid stuff that ultimately hurts YOU. Take responsibility for YOURSELF. You are the only YOU you've got. Take care of it. And that include women making stupid choices. Take better care of yourself.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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When someone is walking down the middle of a busy street and gets hit by car, do people say, well maybe he shouldn't have been walking down the middle of the street?

When a person leaves a car unlocked in a shady part of town, do people say, hey next time LOCK YOU DOORS?

When someone in a casino is waving the stack of money he just won, exclaiming Wow Look how much I won, and gets robbed on his way out, do people say, probably shouldn't have announced you were carrying all that cash?

YES.

Common sense. Don't do stupid stuff that ultimately hurts YOU. Take responsibility for YOURSELF. You are the only YOU you've got. Take care of it. And that include women making stupid choices. Take better care of yourself.

If you meet a stranger, and put your hand out for a handshake, and the stranger slaps you instead...is that your fault?


What I'm hearing is "If you behave in a slutty manner, you deserve to get assaulted." Some here are acting like the morality police.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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Women are not allowed to make stupid choices. Only men are. Thought everyone knew that. And if she doesn't know this, she deserves whatever happens to her.

This is LITERALLY the mindset.

And the kind of people defense attorneys love to have on juries in sexual assault cases.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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If you meet a stranger, and put your hand out for a handshake, and the stranger slaps you instead...is that your fault?


What I'm hearing is "If you behave in a slutty manner, you deserve to get assaulted." Some here are acting like the morality police.

I remember a case in Italy when a 64 year old women was raped by a 30 year and he claimed she wanted it because she was enticing him with her flirty smile and daisy dress. Then there are women covered head to toe but asked for it with their eyes, uh huh. Those shameful hussies swinging their hips using those walkers, and women showing cleavage, or showing their kneecaps or the 90 year olds not shutting their curtains and enticing attention
 
Old 10-17-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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For example a friend of a friend went to a bar, met a guy, went back to his house and drank what he gave her, was then claiming she was assaulted but can’t remember the whole night.
When you know there are horrible sexual predators out there, why would you go to a strangers house and also drink something he gave you, not knowing what’s in it. I would think you would have to claim some responsibility for putting yourself in harms way especially these days when there is so much evil out there.
It’s one think to be jumped when walking to your car and another thing to willing go back to a strangers house.
If you changed the scenario to Adrian went to X's house for whatever, and X shot Adrian in the face. Would you say Adrian is partially to blame?
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