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Old 05-09-2020, 07:26 PM
 
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To me, for most things, confronting or reporting transgressions is proper, and helps society function. Terming it by the degrading word "snitches" brings to mind people who approve of gangsters saying silent to protect other criminals.
Of course! Silence is Acceptance, and blatantly disobeying rules and laws is often a direct act of aggression usually perpetrated by type A aggressive people as a mere extension of their day to day behavior. "Intimidating" either directly or as a by product of their behavior others to remain silent is actually quite despicable.

Where I am, dog leash laws are at the forefront of this behavior, no matter how many dog parks/dog runs/dedicated dog areas towns and villages create, there's always the folks who just aren't going to obey.

Woman jogger passed us with an unleashed doberman today, bonus threat to being attacked/knocked over/bitten/etc. is it could carry Covid-19 for transmission. Signs EVERYWHERE on the leash laws BTW.
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Old 05-09-2020, 08:34 PM
 
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Your title shows your own bias.

To me, for most things, confronting or reporting transgressions is proper, and helps society function. Terming it by the degrading word "snitches" brings to mind people who approve of gangsters saying silent to protect other criminals.
Couldn't rep you enough.

Learned to incorporate 'if you see something, say something'

Found a bit of levelheadedness in discernment can guide.
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Old 05-09-2020, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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People who reported violaters in St Luis were outted when police were forced to reveal the 18K names and addreses of all the violation reporters. This is because of a Sunshine Law and freedom of information act.

Think twice before assuming you can spy for the gvmnt. This is not East Germany.
The quizzling spies in East Germany had the same rationale seen here on City Data.

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/in...6-09c8ffdeff21



The psychology behind it is fear, people choose safety over freedom due to lacking a suitable psychological skill for dealing with their fear.
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Old 05-09-2020, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Of course! Silence is Acceptance, and blatantly disobeying rules and laws is often a direct act of aggression usually perpetrated by type A aggressive people as a mere extension of their day to day behavior. "Intimidating" either directly or as a by product of their behavior others to remain silent is actually quite despicable.

Where I am, dog leash laws are at the forefront of this behavior, no matter how many dog parks/dog runs/dedicated dog areas towns and villages create, there's always the folks who just aren't going to obey.

Woman jogger passed us with an unleashed doberman today, bonus threat to being attacked/knocked over/bitten/etc. is it could carry Covid-19 for transmission. Signs EVERYWHERE on the leash laws BTW.
Theres a bumper sticker, Live and Let Live.
The temptation to play God comes like a pesky moscuitto, it bothers me all day sometimes.
Add the stress of this virus and fuses get shorter.
I fight all day trying not to judge others.
Keep the faith.
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Old 05-09-2020, 09:53 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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The thing that got me thinking about this, is that I just read about a list of social-distancing "snitches" was published in a list for the community to see. I guess these people got upset to see their name published, even though it was from public record.
The snitches got published, not the the 'violators'? Man, you must live in a red state, unlike me...not that I'm Republican myself, because I'm not, but I'm very ambivalent about social distancing, given that I'm 33 and not obese and potentially just sacrificing my life for months for the benefit of the old and infirm. What list, and what was the point of making that list public? Odd, odd, odd...I personally take pride in having potentially spent the most time walking by myself of anyone in my entire county of 900k or so over the last two months...I am 'defying quarantine' in the least confrontational and least disruptive way possible...and have met no opposition for doing so, except for the one woman who told me to wear a mask while covering her maskless face with her jacket (this occurred on a park trail while we kept our 6+ feet of distance)...that incident was clearly worth it for entertainment value.
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Old 05-09-2020, 10:30 PM
 
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The snitches got published, not the the 'violators'? Man, you must live in a red state, unlike me...not that I'm Republican myself, because I'm not, but I'm very ambivalent about social distancing, given that I'm 33 and not obese and potentially just sacrificing my life for months for the benefit of the old and infirm. What list, and what was the point of making that list public? Odd, odd, odd...I personally take pride in having potentially spent the most time walking by myself of anyone in my entire county of 900k or so over the last two months...I am 'defying quarantine' in the least confrontational and least disruptive way possible...and have met no opposition for doing so, except for the one woman who told me to wear a mask while covering her maskless face with her jacket (this occurred on a park trail while we kept our 6+ feet of distance)...that incident was clearly worth it for entertainment value.
It's scary to imply that the names of the alleged violators should have been published instead.
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Old 05-09-2020, 10:40 PM
 
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People who reported violaters in St Luis were outted when police were forced to reveal the 18K names and addreses of all the violation reporters. This is because of a Sunshine Law and freedom of information act.

Think twice before assuming you can spy for the gvmnt. This is not East Germany.
The quizzling spies in East Germany had the same rationale seen here on City Data.

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/in...6-09c8ffdeff21



The psychology behind it is fear, people choose safety over freedom due to lacking a suitable psychological skill for dealing with their fear.
No doxxing laws in effect or they only gave names? Are they going to have to testify in court and would that be witness intimidation?

On the other hand haven't the police heard of an anonymous tip line?

These people are still going to be living in the same neighborhood after. This will give 'get off my lawn' new meaning.

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Old 05-09-2020, 10:52 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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It's scary to imply that the names of the alleged violators should have been published instead.
I don't think either should have been published/shamed. I strongly think that. But if you made me pick one, I side with publishing the violators, very tentatively. If only for maybe figuring out how 'we can best do things moving forward'. I say this as someone who lives in (W)NY and is staring draconian social distancing measures in the face for another several months despite the fact that this state's policy is driven by a city 7 hours away, driving-time wise. I also violate the norms myself by playing cards with my regular group of ten friends every two weeks and uh going to my local university every day which is somehow unlocked and open to me as basically my private playground at this time, lol.

The thing is, my area is still worse than the national norm for cases/deaths. So I think regional bias comes into play here. I live in a county of 920k with 4300 cases and 350 deaths. Not terrible but also not negligible (more than half of the deaths have been at nursing homes, shockingly (not <Borat voice>). Believe me though, I hate my life every day when I get up and go out (and I do get up and go out on a daily basis) into a dead world in what was already a dead region.
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Old 05-09-2020, 11:47 PM
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Location: USA
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What is the psychology behind these people?

I'm referring to those who would do things like report someone who violated social distancing laws, just as one example.
Law Enforcement in my area aren’t bothering with those kind of calls . Those people who snitch will quickly become the gossip of the town of neighbors to avoid.
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Old 05-10-2020, 12:07 AM
 
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Law Enforcement in my area aren’t bothering with those kind of calls . Those people who snitch will quickly become the gossip of the town of neighbors to avoid.

I know some 80 year old seniors who got upset at groups of kids playing on a field across the street from their apartment complex. They called the police and got transferred to someone who asked 'What do you want us to do? They said break them up but no one showed up. In the meantime they went over no mask on a powered scooter and confronted them on their own-'I social distanced'. So as a high risk person with no mask put themselves in front of crowd over a dozen strong keep in younger children are at their height when sitting on a scooter. That was 3 weeks ago, they're not sick yet.
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