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Old 12-13-2021, 03:24 PM
 
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Tarzan broke off those heels for the women......one of them before Ron Ely....maybe Johnny Weissmuller. In any event, such things as that are not seen from my point of view but possibilities of others who might need them. Canned fruit and spaghetti are now poison for me.......but they are kept in case family and friend flock to the house, passing refugees need a donation, for bartering.

Thinking in terms like .......
Chief O'Brien: [on Chief Lorenzo] So, once he has his picture, he's going to send us the graviton stabilizer?
Nog: No. He is giving us an induction modulator.
Chief O'Brien: But we don't need an induction modulator.
Nog: But the USS Musashi does.
Chief O'Brien: Aah. So the Musashi's going to send us the stabilizer?
Nog: No. They're giving us a phaser emitter.
Chief O'Brien: But we don't need a phaser emitter!
Nog: I know. But the USS Sentinel does, and *they* have the extra stabilizer.
Chief O'Brien: And they're willing to give it up for a phaser emitter?

(from DS 9 Treachery, Faith, and the Great River)
I currently don't have a .22 rifle or pistol. Someday, I hope to but for now, I don't. But between hopes, that some arrival may have a rifle, or that it could be used for bartering (that if society ever goes south, the 2 most available ammos with be .22 and 9mm), I buy that ammo, too!

I knew I liked you for a reason... a fellow Trekker!

Klinger on MASH used to do the same types of bartering.

Maybe I am an optimist, but I have my doubts about society going south in my lifetime. First of all, it tends to happen over decades. They say Rome wasn't built in a day... neither did it fall in a day. It took more than 200 years. And even if things did fall apart, I imagine we would do what humans always did and break off into smaller societies where everyone contributed, much like Europe right before Charlemagne's Time. Or if you want an example of an immediate collapse, look at Europe post WW2 and what happened with society then, people pulled together. Only in fiction have does humanity go the way of Mad Max and the like.
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Old 12-13-2021, 04:02 PM
 
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.........I imagine we would do what humans always did and break off into smaller societies where everyone contributed, much like Europe right before Charlemagne's Time. Or if you want an example of an immediate collapse, look at Europe post WW2 and what happened with society then, people pulled together. Only in fiction have does humanity go the way of Mad Max and the like.

Maybe. The catch with that is that those are generalist societies.....and much of the modern world is specialist. That is, people operate under the concept of "That's not my job!". Now, not all aspects are like that such as those who follow the seasons, those who are cross trained for if everyone doesn't pitch in, you starve (farmers, fishermen, military for example).



Just saying at the end of the day.
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:35 PM
 
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The whole point of this thread is, I’m having a problem getting rid of the sentimental stuff. I have just too much of it and I need to weed through it. That’s the thing that I’m struggling the most with and wondering why it’s so hard to get rid of these things. Although like many people said, it’s memories. No I know the reason, I’m still trying to figure out a way to unload some of it. Some people seem to be able to not worry about keeping sentimental things, my daughter is definitely one of them. Someone like me, on the other hand, clings to these things. I need to think of a way to change my attitude and behavior if I want to illuminate some of the stuff stored in those 12 plastic bins.

The only thing really worth keeping are photos and important documents in those 12 bins. The rest of it you need to take a picture and write a few words of what it means to you. Then, you need to release it back to the universe (thrift store, etc.). Start now with 1 bin and report back.

I can explain how I know this is true; but, I don't want to bore you (let's just say by experience (over decades) is how I know. You are not letting go of your daughter. You have to develop a new, adult relationship with her.
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:56 PM
 
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The only thing really worth keeping are photos and important documents in those 12 bins. The rest of it you need to take a picture and write a few words of what it means to you. Then, you need to release it back to the universe (thrift store, etc.). Start now with 1 bin and report back.

I can explain how I know this is true; but, I don't want to bore you (let's just say by experience (over decades) is how I know. You are not letting go of your daughter. You have to develop a new, adult relationship with her.
You are right and I know that. I need to take those first steps on those bins instead of cleaning out the closet for the third time. I know what I’m doing, I’m taking the easy path. I’m bring bin #1 to the couch now and I’ll sit here and go through it while watching my documentaries. It might take me a few days though as I slowly go through it.
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Old 12-13-2021, 07:45 PM
 
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You are right and I know that. I need to take those first steps on those bins instead of cleaning out the closet for the third time. I know what I’m doing, I’m taking the easy path. I’m bring bin #1 to the couch now and I’ll sit here and go through it while watching my documentaries. It might take me a few days though as I slowly go through it.

We anxiously await your report (but, no hurry)
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Old 12-14-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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Other things to keep in mind to keep the amount of stuff down.

Don't get involved in gear intensive activities or if you do, keep it to one.

Be only a minor player in such gear intensive activities, don't be a leader, don't be the cook (literally).

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Old 12-14-2021, 11:35 AM
 
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Unless you think you have a diamond in the rough I'd donate or sell it to the best offer at the time. I know people who so worried about losing out on some estate items they turned down reasonable offers at a yard sale instead putting it into storage and paying bills. I look at it if the item is sold or donated it's not wasted nor does one have to throw out/pay for junk removal.
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Old 12-20-2021, 02:29 PM
 
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When I divorced in 2004 after 28 years of marriage and raising my kids, my husband and I both moved out of the house and sold it. Packing was heartwrenching for me, probably didn't bother him at all. I had a stuffed lion named Fred, a dear friend gave him to me on a birthday. Fred was there for me all the time when nobody else was. I cannot tell you how much I loved that lion. So, I slept with him every night, just to have something warm snuggled up against me. He was my comfort source and I truly loved Fred. My grandkids were playing in my room onr night, and noticed my collection of animals. The ones they seem to like the best are the ones I gave to each one of them but I held on to Fred forever. He sat on my bed and day in and day out he just sat there. Then one day I was taking some clothes to Goodwill and for some reason I just grabbed Fred and took him with me. I had to let go of that Lion but the thoughts I was having was to let someone else feel comforted. Maybe some little kid that feels alone will find a friend in Fred. Thus the end of my stuffed animals. Once it was done I rarely even thought about it. But thinking about getting rid of him was torture! Do it, you will feel better!
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Old 01-01-2022, 04:40 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Once it was done I rarely even thought about it. But thinking about getting rid of him was torture! Do it, you will feel better!
I'm told that when I was a baby I clung to "Honey-Bunny" and "Funny Bunny." My mother tells me that she one day said "don't you think you are outgrowing" the bunnies. I went down to the incinerator in our apartment building, through them down the shoot and said "out." I don't remember this myself.
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Old 01-01-2022, 05:30 PM
 
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Although I need to get back to those 12 plastic bins too. That's the hard bit because... sentimental value is harder to part with. I looked at them again, one whole bin is full of papers and art projects my daughter did. I don't know that I can pare that down. Maybe I will leave that alone. Unlike toys that are things, those are from the heart. It was sweet reading her second grade poem "ode to my mom... but I hate broccoli" (originally titled "owed to my mom but I hat broclee") again. The poem was basically saying, I love you mom, but stop serving broccoli with dinner. Haha
The easiest stuff to get rid of out of my children drawings were the ones that they did not totally create. So, the ones that were made in pre school that wished a happy holiday but my kids obviously did not do much in them were tossed. If all there was was a handprint I may have kelts one. There were quite a few of these bulky projects that the kids had minimal involvement with.
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