Charlotte Harbor 'Non Flats' fishing spots (Edgewater: 2014, home, neighborhood)

[rock creek]

Apologies to daFrogMan for completely blowing his thread out to an entirely different subject

[MikeM8560]

Rat i agree on the 4 ways but it can be a pain when people space out so dar you cant make it and it is now a short cut everyone thinks going home cutting of 41 thiugh ive seen cars that went the other say meet up with me again. At flamingo ect.
And i heard the 1% sale tax has funded it.
As far as the. Noise cars travle prety fast now I sold a house across from a lake on a main route and all i heard from potential
Buyer was oh the road and im thinking great price to get on a grewt lake.
And are tou guys talking of the bridge on pelaham blvd that verry small and not even needed

[Harbor Hopper]

Originally Posted by rock creek

I need the pellam bridge done

Pellam is not being changed. The 4-lane widening is only taking place between Harbor and Midway, so only the three bridges between there have to be upgraded.

[rock creek]

I was talking about the bridge on Edgewater that crosses Pellam waterway

[Harbor Hopper]

Originally Posted by HarborRat

I don't see why Edgewater needs them, the traffic is normally light and runs pretty smoothly through the 4-ways (which I actually hate, but work). Old people + snow-birds + bad drivers + rotary = one heck of a cluster ****. The single road handles traffic just fine, no need to widen it to 4 lanes.

There must be a surplus of money that needs to be spent, cause I can think of many better things the city should splurge on. Wider bridges? By a few feet? Why? I don't want tractor trailers driving down Edgewater, do you? If you lived on Edgewater, would you want most of your front yard taken away by Eminent Domain? If you live in any of our quiet areas near Edgewater do you want to hear traffic from it all night that a four lane road will bring? People will be cutting through from 776 to 41 non-stop...why do we want that? Even if you are nowhere near Edgewater your taxes will go up to pay for all this work.

Leave Edgewater Dr the way it is, for the most part it is the least trashy of all major roads in PC, and I'd like to see it stay that way. I didn't move to a quiet area to end up 3 blocks from a major highway, which it sounds like it will be someday!

Ok, rant over...I forget what this topic was even about .

This project is already a done deal. Been in process for nearly 3 years. No property tax payers dollars supposedly being used (tourist and sales tax). I went to the informational meeting last summer at the beach complex and also asked why this was needed. I was told it is for "future residential traffic" meaning they are expecting more and more traffic as baby boomers retire and move south. They have the funds now, so they want to get it done now and use the gov't grant money given back in 2011 for this project.
The homes on the south side of Edgewater do NOT own the first 50ft of frontage, according to the county. The county owns it and always has. Nobody is "taking" property through eminent domain.
Regarding the bridges, this project has nothing to do with bridges, other than they must be replaced since the roadway is being widened. The main purpose is to widen the road. The bridge heights will only be raised by a few inches, NOT feet. I was hoping they could be raised to 12 or 14ft like in PGI, but was told that type of incline approach is no longer allowed in bridge construction. They guarantee no bridges will be lower than they are currently. Regulations do not allow decreasing a bridges height. I was very adamant about this since I need every bit of 10ft my bridge offers! 3-4 inches higher and I will never have to worry about summer high tides again

Now, back to harbor fishing

[Harbor Hopper]

Originally Posted by rock creek

I was talking about the bridge on Edgewater that crosses Pellam waterway

That bridge is 10ft clearance at mean high tide. Like most of the PC bridges. That's the highest we have here. I have a radar arch (9ft 9in clearance) and make it under there.

[daFrogMan]

Even though this thread has strayed, I still enjoy the information about the widening of edgewater.
Rock Creek, if they do raise the Pellam bridge, you still have to go under the Midway bridge of which I'm pretty sure is the exact same height of Edgewater.

To stay on track, going out again today to try our luck again. TippieCanoe produced squat!
Thx

[rock creek]

Thats true Frogman it just seems shorter for some reason My SeaRay with the binini up seems to just squeak under Edgewater and have good clearance under Midway just an optical illusion I guess

[HarborRat]

Originally Posted by Harbor Hopper

This project is already a done deal. Been in process for nearly 3 years. No property tax payers dollars supposedly being used (tourist and sales tax). I went to the informational meeting last summer at the beach complex and also asked why this was needed. I was told it is for "future residential traffic" meaning they are expecting more and more traffic as baby boomers retire and move south. They have the funds now, so they want to get it done now and use the gov't grant money given back in 2011 for this project.
The homes on the south side of Edgewater do NOT own the first 50ft of frontage, according to the county. The county owns it and always has. Nobody is "taking" property through eminent domain.
Regarding the bridges, this project has nothing to do with bridges, other than they must be replaced since the roadway is being widened. The main purpose is to widen the road. The bridge heights will only be raised by a few inches, NOT feet. I was hoping they could be raised to 12 or 14ft like in PGI, but was told that type of incline approach is no longer allowed in bridge construction. They guarantee no bridges will be lower than they are currently. Regulations do not allow decreasing a bridges height. I was very adamant about this since I need every bit of 10ft my bridge offers! 3-4 inches higher and I will never have to worry about summer high tides again

Now, back to harbor fishing

Thanks for the info HH. The eminent domain part...I was going by what a friend of mine said. He had a house near the Spring Lake ramp and received a letter from the county saying he was about to lose X amount of feet off his property but would be "compensated" at "fair market value". He sold the house right after that. It seems all projects like these claim to be without using taxpayer money...until the time comes and they go over their budget by 4x, then all bets are off.


I'm taking some friends on the boat today, I'm going to try and get some fishing in!

[Harbor Hopper]

Originally Posted by HarborRat

Thanks for the info HH. The eminent domain part...I was going by what a friend of mine said. He had a house near the Spring Lake ramp and received a letter from the county saying he was about to lose X amount of feet off his property but would be "compensated" at "fair market value". He sold the house right after that. It seems all projects like these claim to be without using taxpayer money...until the time comes and they go over their budget by 4x, then all bets are off.


I'm taking some friends on the boat today, I'm going to try and get some fishing in!

The only eminent domain that I'm aware of is where the idiots are putting in the traffic-slowing roundabouts. Those require more property and I think two vacant lots had to be purchased (done a while back). Roundabout are GREAT if you know how to use them, but most people don't and freaking stop when entering and all the way through. There is NO stopping at/in roundabouts, only yielding! there, my rant is over