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Old 05-31-2011, 03:12 PM
 
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I-540 would theoretically be renamed I-640 once it becomes a full circle, because odd numbers(5) are used to indicate interstate spurs and even numbers (6) are used for loops.
I-540 will never be a full circle, since the state has designated the southern half as NC-540.
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Old 05-31-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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I-540 will never be a full circle, since the state has designated the southern half as NC-540.
Yep, but just touching I40 twice counts for an even number - think I295 in Richmond. Not much more than a semi circle.
So extending the existing terminus at 64 in the SE quadrant to I40 as an "Interstate" would qualify it.
The point of the numbering system should be to make it clear to the users, not to make an end run for easier tolling.

Frank

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Old 05-31-2011, 03:26 PM
 
Location: NC
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They need to paint a big orange line on the Road Formerly Known As Beltline to show where West becomes East and East becomes West.

Course I'm so old fashioned I still use road names instead of exit numbers to give directions...
I get a lot of "uh, what exit number is Capitol Blvd?" Helooooooo, just look for the words!
haha, me too! Mind you, I still think Downtown Blvd in some instances
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: At the NC-SC Border
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haha, me too! Mind you, I still think Downtown Blvd in some instances
The ol' Downtown Blvd....had such a nice ring to it didn't it She was really hopping in her day.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Yep, but just touching I40 twice counts for an even number - think I295 in Richmond. Not much more than a semi circle.
So extending the existing terminus at 64 in the SE quadrant to I40 as an "Interstate" would qualify it.
The point of the numbering system should be to make it clear to the users, not to make an end run for easier tolling.

Frank
The problem is that federal law essentially doesn't allow interstate funding for new tolled roads. And since it doesn't appear likely that any of the remainder of 540 will be built without tolls, the section between US 64 and I-40 on the eastern side will have to be NC-540 and not I-540, thus leaving I-540 as a spur road with an appropriate number.

It's a stupid policy that just serves to create confusion for people trying to get around, but it's what we're stuck with.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:11 AM
 
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The problem is that federal law essentially doesn't allow interstate funding for new tolled roads. And since it doesn't appear likely that any of the remainder of 540 will be built without tolls, the section between US 64 and I-40 on the eastern side will have to be NC-540 and not I-540, thus leaving I-540 as a spur road with an appropriate number.

It's a stupid policy that just serves to create confusion for people trying to get around, but it's what we're stuck with.
Agree, the Feds have been somewhat ambivalent over time concerning tolls on Interstates. The current construction of the HOT (High Occupancy/Toll) lanes on I495 in Virginia being an interesting twist.
Looks like the options are documented here:

http://www.ops.fhwa.dot.gov/tolling_pricing/index.htm


Frank

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Old 06-01-2011, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I will ALWAYS have a beltline.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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Default Yes, it really is confusing

Loop roads are always confusing to newcomers. Going the right direction on the Beltline (it's old name) is just as tricky as when we first moved here 9 years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_440_(North_Carolina)
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I-95 has tolls out the yin yang through Maryland, Delaware and NY, doesn't it? I feel that eventually they will rename the completed outerloop I-640 including the tolled section. They'll come to their senses. They did, afterall, rename "Old Wake Forest Rd" to "Wake Forest Rd." And the I-440 designation didn't even appear until 1991.

My question is why isn't Capital Blvd named "Capitol Blvd"?
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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My question is why isn't Capital Blvd named "Capitol Blvd"?
Because the reference is to a city, not a building.
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