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Not exactly what I’d call an economic lift by any stretch unless Garner is trying to fill empty rentals in the projects by adding another 2000 non-seasonal minimum wage jobs. This is sad news if you ask me. These jobs couldn’t even afford homes in the worst areas.
Amazon is taking over the meat processing plants as the traditional employers of rural NC'ers. IIRC, the meatpacking plants have better pay for some of their more skilled jobs (such as the techs who fix the machinery)
A job is a job is a job. People had the same reaction when MGM built their casino at National Harbor in Maryland. They wanted high-paying jobs and felt that casino jobs weren't worthy enough.
Would you rather have 2000 people on public assistance? I can't see how no job is somehow better than a job making $10.50.
A job is a job is a job. People had the same reaction when MGM built their casino at National Harbor in Maryland. They wanted high-paying jobs and felt that casino jobs weren't worthy enough.
Would you rather have 2000 people on public assistance? I can't see how no job is somehow better than a job making $10.50.
This. People ***** and moan but it's work for a specific set of laborers.
If people want a better paying/different job, they're going to have to figure out a way to invest in their own education or leave the rural area for other opportunities.
I would argue that a living wage is more important than just having a job. $10.50 might mean the person still needs government assistance to make ends meet but could be ruled ineligible because of income. $1,800 a month for a full time job at $10.50 isnt enough to live on for pretty much anybody.
This. People ***** and moan but it's work for a specific set of laborers.
If people want a better paying/different job, they're going to have to figure out a way to invest in their own education or leave the rural area for other opportunities.
Education is not cheap and someone has to work these jobs. If companies are going to demand tax incentives from local communities, they should at least be paying a living wage. At $10.50 hourly, some of these workers may still end up on some sort of public assistance.
I would argue that a living wage is more important than just having a job. $10.50 might mean the person still needs government assistance to make ends meet but could be ruled ineligible because of income. $1,800 a month for a full time job at $10.50 isnt enough to live on for pretty much anybody.
More than what I (and my wife) made out of college for my first couple jobs through 2006. Not that long ago even adjusting for inflation. Never been on government assistance.
I think, for those who have never lived on such a wage, they have a hard time imagining it. But it's very possible. No, you aren't saving for retirement but you won't starve.
Our annual spending is right around $39,000 a year. That is for a typical middle class lifestyle. Three bedroom home in a safe area, two cars, dog. We want for nothing. We do spend more than average on food as we use higher priced vegetarian foods and travel for vacations several times a year. While that's slightly outside two folks working there at Amazon (rougly $35k after taxes) it's not that far off especially discounting our extravagant spending.
Education is not cheap and someone has to work these jobs. If companies are going to demand tax incentives from local communities, they should at least be paying a living wage. At $10.50 hourly, some of these workers may still end up on some sort of public assistance.
$10.50 goes a lot farther in Raleigh than it does in DC, NYC, Seattle, etc. I mean that's what people in this forum boast about right? A lower cost of living is the most important selling point for HQ2. Now $10.50 is not enough? Perhaps the cost of living is not as low as people claim it to be?
$10.50 goes a lot farther in Raleigh than it does in DC, NYC, Seattle, etc. I mean that's what people in this forum boast about right? A lower cost of living is the most important selling point for HQ2. Now $10.50 is not enough? Perhaps the cost of living is not as low as people claim it to be?
Q.
Where IS the typical starting wage for unskilled work adequate?
A.
Nowhere.
That is why people aspire to advancement.
That is why it is universally called a "starting wage."
Average wage for 1500 jobs and $45 million annual payroll is $30,000/year.
More than a couple of people will make more than starting wage.
And, that average figure will be pulled down by part-timers and surge hires.
Q.
Where IS the typical starting wage for unskilled work adequate?
A.
Nowhere.
That is why people aspire to advancement.
That is why it is universally called a "starting wage."
Average wage for 1500 jobs and $45 million annual payroll is $30,000/year.
More than a couple of people will make more than starting wage.
And, that average figure will be pulled down by part-timers and surge hires.
Exactly. So, my question again is, would you rather have no jobs unless they all pay $12/hr? Or have jobs now that pay $10.50 and get your representatives to vote for a statewide minimum wage increase to $12/hr or more to fix the all-of-a-sudden high cost of living issue in NC?
Seems reasonable to me to get the jobs here first, then raise the minimum wage. But that's a state/county issue and not really an Amazon issue.
NC Minimum Wage (Wake County): $7.25/hr
Compared to Maryland/Baltimore's min. wage of $10.10 set in July of this year.
Baltimore Amazon Fulfillment center jobs start around $12.00/hr.
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