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Old 06-17-2020, 09:03 AM
 
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Yes, I'm sure doctors are willing to risk their medical licenses so the hospital can capture an additional reimbursement. Makes total sense.
They're not doing anything wrong. In past months they were saving beds for the most severe cases because they were worried about being over-run.

It's clear as day that this is what's going on when you look at the data. More young people aren't getting covid, more are being tested and being allowed into hospitals.

By the way your anecdote from a single nurse is meaningless. Data is not meaningless.
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Old 06-17-2020, 09:18 AM
 
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They're not doing anything wrong. In past months they were saving beds for the most severe cases because they were worried about being over-run.

It's clear as day that this is what's going on when you look at the data. More young people aren't getting covid, more are being tested and being allowed into hospitals.
You constantly post the most obvious things, and act like they are some brilliant concepts handed to you by god himself. And then you try to use those obvious thoughts to argue with anyone and everyone, including yourself in this case.

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By the way your anecdote from a single nurse is meaningless. Data is not meaningless.
I'm well aware of the limitations of anecdotal evidence (again, thank you Capt. Obvious). Thats why I phrased my post the way I did...in order to make it clear that it WAS merely an anecdote, albeit one from a very good source.

Data isn't meaningless, of course, but it IS subject to interpretation, analysis, etc. And most people are incapable of setting aside their own beliefs, prejudices, etc. when doing that.
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Old 06-17-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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You constantly post the most obvious things, and act like they are some brilliant concepts handed to you by god himself. And then you try to use those obvious thoughts to argue with anyone and everyone, including yourself in this case.



I'm well aware of the limitations of anecdotal evidence (again, thank you Capt. Obvious). Thats why I phrased my post the way I did...in order to make it clear that it WAS merely an anecdote, albeit one from a very good source.

Data isn't meaningless, of course, but it IS subject to interpretation, analysis, etc. And most people are incapable of setting aside their own beliefs, prejudices, etc. when doing that.
You disagreed with what I said, I explained why I said what I did, then you say it was obvious and that I'm trying to argue with you?

So I guess you agree with me now? I give up...really.
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Old 06-17-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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I give up...really.
Great!
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Old 06-17-2020, 12:35 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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Old 06-17-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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It's clear as day that this is what's going on when you look at the data. More young people aren't getting covid, more are being tested and being allowed into hospitals.

My own anecdotal evidence - a couple months ago, one of my friend's siblings got it (in Boston) and that person lived with roommates, so the roommates got it too. One of the roommates, a guy in his 20s, had it and was coughing up blood. But his symptoms weren't bad enough for him to go to the hospital. I always associated coughing up blood with imminent death, so I found that surprising. Maybe they would admit a case like that now? I don't know.
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Old 06-17-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Location: River's Edge Inn, Todd NC, and Lorgues France
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Great!
I've figured it out. You two are really the same person. Two different real people would not go on like this week after week.
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Old 06-17-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You constantly post the most obvious things, and act like they are some brilliant concepts handed to you by god himself. And then you try to use those obvious thoughts to argue with anyone and everyone, including yourself in this case.



I'm well aware of the limitations of anecdotal evidence (again, thank you Capt. Obvious). Thats why I phrased my post the way I did...in order to make it clear that it WAS merely an anecdote, albeit one from a very good source.

Data isn't meaningless, of course, but it IS subject to interpretation, analysis, etc. And most people are incapable of setting aside their own beliefs, prejudices, etc. when doing that.
And on that note, those charts and graphs on NC DHHS website can be displayed with different extents of the x and y datum and cause people to walk away with varying degrees of alarm of the uptick's severity.

The curve or upward trend looks alarming with small increments of the datum, and relatively unimportant if the bar graph's increments and extents are much larger which makes the bars smaller on the chart.
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Old 06-17-2020, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that doesn't prove that any of the PPE prevented transmission.

I'm thankful to everyone who does wear them just for being considerate of others, but I'm still not convinced that they are playing a significant role in slowing or stopping Covid.

Would gas masks perform better?

Would just breathing through the nose be sufficient?

Should masks be worn during flu season? Would they help then?
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Old 06-17-2020, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that doesn't prove that any of the PPE prevented transmission.
And what's your medical training? Dr Cohen has her medical degree from Yale and her masters in Public Health from Harvard and she says masks work.
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