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Old 11-23-2020, 03:13 PM
 
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Number of tests has declined for 2 consecutive days and yesterday was at the lowest level in a week.
This is why I (and many others) refuse to take anything you say seriously.
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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so I see Gov Cooper wants us wearing masks in our own home when anyone we don't live with is present

https://mobile.twitter.com/NC_Govern...52455182495747

does my daughter, home from college after 3 months, count or not?
gee whiz I dunno
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:26 PM
 
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This is why I (and many others) refuse to take anything you say seriously.
Not that I care in the least whether or not you take anything I say seriously , but what numbers are you disputing? And before you answer, realize they are right on the state's website.
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:32 PM
 
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Not that I care in the least whether or not you take anything I say seriously , but what numbers are you disputing? And before you answer, realize they are right on the state's website.
I want you to take a look at the historical testing numbers and tell me if you see any patterns from week to week that may stick out to you....

Here, I'll even post the graph that you claim you looked at to make it easier for you:

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Old 11-23-2020, 03:57 PM
 
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I want you to take a look at the historical testing numbers and tell me if you see any patterns from week to week that may stick out to you....

Here, I'll even post the graph that you claim you looked at to make it easier for you:
Just to back you up on this. This data from the Testing tab of the NC DHHS dashboard is aggregated data distributed back across days. You will find that as each day comes out the cases are distributed out across multiple days. The most recent few days aren't necessarily complete in that chart.

People should be careful when making assumptions about aggregated reported data.

Here are the daily deltas actually reported the last few weeks.

Date Completed Tests
11/9/2020 34500
11/10/2020 29930
11/11/2020 29886
11/12/2020 40273
11/13/2020 35812
11/14/2020 54399
11/15/2020 40823
11/16/2020 47125
11/17/2020 17381
11/18/2020 33029
11/19/2020 54560
11/20/2020 49376
11/21/2020 41401
11/22/2020 69172
11/23/2020 35962

Again, these numbers are then distributed back across a number of days to produce the graph that was linked above.

The reported number two days ago(11/22) was actually the highest single reporting day of new tests (69k), but when this got distributed across days... the highest day of tests is 11/20 with just over 55k.

You'll notice the percent positive isn't updated past 11/21. This is because the data is considered not complete enough to make a proper estimation. The numbers can vary a little even after posted here as well.


People need to be careful to understand how data is collected and reported.
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:59 PM
 
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I want you to take a look at the historical testing numbers and tell me if you see any patterns from week to week that may stick out to you....

Here, I'll even post the graph that you claim you looked at to make it easier for you:
Yes, that confirms exactly what I said. Testing numbers dropped from the 20th to the 21st and and again from the 21st to the 22nd (just as I said) and was lower on the 22nd than any day of the previous week, except perhaps on the 16th by a very small number. Also, you'll notice, or more likely won't notice) that the 7 day moving average is trending down, which of course contradicts YOUR narrative. I mentioned nothing about weekly cycles, so once again you're attempting to introduce an irrelevant topic into the conversation.

Thanks for confirming what I said. I'll wait for your apology now...

I guess you don't want to talk about the hospitalization numbers, huh?

You're the one no one takes seriously. Now please honor your agreement to not respond to my posts in the future. Thanks!

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Old 11-23-2020, 04:12 PM
 
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Yes, that confirms exactly what I said. Testing numbers dropped from the 20th to the 21st and and again from the 21st to the 22nd (just as I said) and was lower on the 22nd than any day of the previous week, except perhaps on the 16th by a very small number. Also, you'll notice, or more likely won't notice) that the 7 day moving average is trending down, which of course contradicts YOUR narrative. I mentioned nothing about weekly cycles, so once again you're attempting to introduce an irrelevant topic into the conversation.

Thanks for confirming what I said. I'll wait for your apology now...

I guess you don't want to talk about the hospitalization numbers, huh?

You're the one no one takes seriously. Now please honor your agreement to not respond to my posts in the future. Thanks!
We can certainly talk hospitalization numbers. They are up on a whole for the state, with no designation of 'from' or 'with' COVID. Numbers out of Miami showed over half their 'COVID' hospitalizations were people in the hospital for other things that tested PCR positive. Unfortunately, we don't have these numbers for NC.

ICU numbers while still high have declined the last 4 days even as overall hospitalizations increase. Hopefully this continues... or at least plateaus.

The Triad and Meck are where hospitalization growth is occurring.


Triangle and Mountains have been relatively stable since the 'redefinition' two weeks ago.

And the Eastern and Coastal hospitals are actually BELOW where they were a month ago and that is BEFORE the numbers were boosted by the post-isolation long time patients. Right now, hospitalizations strain is a regional issue. Hopefully the Triad and Meck can turn things around. Those two groups have been driving overall hospitalizations since day 1.

Given we are entering cold/flu/respiratory season and the flu is missing, we are still likely to see hospitalization growth of some sort.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:29 PM
 
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I guess you don't want to talk about the hospitalization numbers, huh?

You're the one no one takes seriously. Now please honor your agreement to not respond to my posts in the future. Thanks!
What about the hospitalization numbers? Yes, they're up and I never denied that - however DHHS isn't yet worried about it as beds and especially ICU's are still in good shape. That can obviously change quickly, especially as we enter cold and flu season.

You were the first one to respond to my post a couple pages back - just because you didn't quote it doesn't give you a pass. But I think we've argued enough like children for now.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:31 PM
 
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What about the hospitalization numbers? Yes, they're up and I never denied that - however DHHS isn't yet worried about it as beds and especially ICU's are still in good shape. That can obviously change quickly, especially as we enter cold and flu season.

You were the first one to respond to my post a couple pages back - just because you didn't quote it doesn't give you a pass. But I think we've argued enough like children for now.
Well, you certainly have. Oh, and thanks again for providing the data that confirmed my post! Appreciate that Mr.-no-one-takes-seriously!
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Old 11-23-2020, 06:34 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5UqUyFmT0

Sorry, someone had to break the tension.
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