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Another case in Apex - mail carrier for downtown Apex has lost her husband and son is on ECMO. Personal connection, the family was told over and over by someone who works at a hospital to get vaxxed because the variant is no joke.
Another case in Apex - mail carrier for downtown Apex has lost her husband and son is on ECMO. Personal connection, the family was told over and over by someone who works at a hospital to get vaxxed because the variant is no joke.
The thing is..we don't know if these people were wearing masks and taking other precautions or anything about their lifestyle habits. If you put yourself "out there" without any thought of taking precautionary measures then your chances of getting COVID increases.
I see we've learned nothing from history. What's the hurry?
We've over a year into this and masks are still childishly silly apparently. Going into flu season soon I say keep the damn things on.
Well, that ‘silly’ mask is staying on my face for now. With some of the attitudes I’ve seen being expressed, I am not confident that people will do the right thing.
Well, that ‘silly’ mask is staying on my face for now. With some of the attitudes I’ve seen being expressed, I am not confident that people will do the right thing.
I hope you realize that my sentence in my post was sarcastic in reply to m378 and I don't actually feel that way.
The study reports on how commonly nine core long-COVID symptoms were diagnosed, and how this rate compared to people recovering from influenza. The nine core long-COVID symptoms, occurring 90-180 days after COVID-19 was diagnosed, comprise:
Abnormal breathing – 8%
Abdominal symptoms – 8%
Anxiety/depression – 15%
Chest/throat pain – 6%
Cognitive problems (‘brain fog’) – 4%
Fatigue – 6%
Headache – 5%
Myalgia (muscle pain) – 1.5%
Other pain – 7%
Any of the above features – 37%
I don't understand exactly how they differentiate between anxiety and long-Covid. Many of those nine symptoms are symptoms of anxiety itself. Tons of people with anxiety since the pandemic started (and before), and I'm guessing many are having those same symptoms that have never had Covid.
Anxiety already high with the pandemic, and I'd imagine that anxiety levels skyrocket for people that get Covid. The world is under a lot of stress, and stress affects your body.
Not sure what your point was - are you minimizing "long haul" covid?
Most of what we see in our outpatient clinics are a constellation of symptoms, not just anxiety, or just a headache or just chest pain. Most of the patients have constant headaches, brain fog and fatigue are the strongest indicators of long-haul covid. We verify this information with family who confirm that the patient is not acting like themselves before the covid-19 infection.
If it's just anxiety and depression, they are referred to a psychiatrist and we usually don't see them again. But if it's physical symptoms, they keep coming back without much relief. Fatigue, headaches and brain fog are the top 3 we see.
Most likely, monocyte cells remains in the body for some reason and they are carrying "leftover" covid-19 proteins so the immune system keeps reacting. Hopefully, we can learn how to get rid of these monocytes.
Not sure what your point was - are you minimizing "long haul" covid?
Most of what we see in our outpatient clinics are a constellation of symptoms, not just anxiety, or just a headache or just chest pain. Most of the patients have constant headaches, brain fog and fatigue are the strongest indicators of long-haul covid. We verify this information with family who confirm that the patient is not acting like themselves before the covid-19 infection.
If it's just anxiety and depression, they are referred to a psychiatrist and we usually don't see them again. But if it's physical symptoms, they keep coming back without much relief. Fatigue, headaches and brain fog are the top 3 we see.
Most likely, monocyte cells remains in the body for some reason and they are carrying "leftover" covid-19 proteins so the immune system keeps reacting. Hopefully, we can learn how to get rid of these monocytes.
I'm not sure where you and I "went off the rails" as relates to my conveyance of information on Covid. I will clearly state again that Covid is real, we should all have concerns, and some of us should be more concerned than others. And that I, and my entire family including a 16 yr old, are vaccinated and that I hope every adult eligible to get vaccinated does so.
For ~16 months, we've been hearing about "long Covid", and it affecting a "third of people" which was always mentioning the above symptoms but without hard figures put to it. Whether the purveyors of that information did so to purposefully scare people....well, some obviously did and I'm sure some didn't.
Whether purposefully scared or not, it seems an accepted fact of life that some of us are "optimists" and some of us are "pessimists". And when you feed each group information, it usually only makes them more optimistic or pessimistic. I'm sure many that had "anxiety or depression" in 2019 still do, and Covid exacerbates that - whether they were ever infected or not. I'm sure many people that didn't have anxiety or depression now do, because they are now scared based on what they've read and been told.
But based on this 270,000 person "study", I am only more optimistic about "long Covid". Yes, it is bad for anyone who still has the physical symptoms mentioned or that you detailed. Conversely, we are talking about what looks like < 10% suffering continuing and concerning symptoms (brain fog, breathing issues, heart issues).
I'm not sure where you and I "went off the rails" as relates to my conveyance of information on Covid. I will clearly state again that Covid is real, we should all have concerns, and some of us should be more concerned than others. And that I, and my entire family including a 16 yr old, are vaccinated and that I hope every adult eligible to get vaccinated does so.
For ~16 months, we've been hearing about "long Covid", and it affecting a "third of people" which was always mentioning the above symptoms but without hard figures put to it. Whether the purveyors of that information did so to purposefully scare people....well, some obviously did and I'm sure some didn't.
Whether purposefully scared or not, it seems an accepted fact of life that some of us are "optimists" and some of us are "pessimists". And when you feed each group information, it usually only makes them more optimistic or pessimistic. I'm sure many that had "anxiety or depression" in 2019 still do, and Covid exacerbates that - whether they were ever infected or not. I'm sure many people that didn't have anxiety or depression now do, because they are now scared based on what they've read and been told.
But based on this 270,000 person "study", I am only more optimistic about "long Covid". Yes, it is bad for anyone who still has the physical symptoms mentioned or that you detailed. Conversely, we are talking about what looks like < 10% suffering continuing and concerning symptoms (brain fog, breathing issues, heart issues).
Not that it would deter your "optimism" but the data you posted indicates that at least 22% of patients are suffering from what you are willing to consider as "continuing and concerning symptoms."
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