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I see a lot of anger at drugs and yet them Sacklers are still walking around free with pockets more full than I can spend in 10 lifetimes.
Main Street will continue to erode until we decouple certain social infrastructure from Wall St. Houselessness is a symptom of capitalism and those neo liberal market forces of a laissez faire economy being applied to your existence. This is the united snakes of exploitation. Winners take all I suppose.
Your comments sound Hitler-ish or Stalinesque. What's the 'right' choice? They're probably already making it.
Our modern society sucks. A vacuous society of greed and duplicity. I think we're just seeing the beginning of what's to come.
They will never answer that question. They'll only tell you that "your policies" are wrong, and when you ask them to ID which policies and why they are wrong, they'll do as they did above in this discussion and deflect and come up with some hypothetical examples, or policies that were not enacted by "your people" but still blame you.
Homelessness is a messy but real problem and unfortunately solutions are not as simple as rehashing some DJT or MGT meme and blaming the victim.
The FACT is that there are litterally MILLIONS of homeless people in the USA, and other than exterminating them, there is no 'simple' way to fix the problem. We can arrest them for setting up camp, but then we pay the prison bill. We can send them somewhere else, but then we need to be prepared to accept "somewhere else's evictions". We can blame them, but it doesn't solve the problem.
I'm not sure if it's Hitler-ish, Stalinesque, or just MAGA-simplicity, but the problems they ID are real and valid, but the idea that you can just wish it away, or arrest everyone who has less fortune than "you" is simply not realistic.
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Of course it is. If you just let them camp, you maintain the status quo. You have to take that away as an option. They'll make the right choice after exhausting every other option.
There has to be a balance of compassion, hard truth, investment, and more. You can't just blame people and think they'll go away. It is beyond naive.
The problems isn't so much that they don't have anywhere to go, rather they don't want to go there. Removing the camps gives them a reason to find the help they need. When they clear these camps, they refer their inhabitants for services. It's unfair to allow some people to camp in public and not others, so it's important these camps be cleared to consistently enforce the law. In recent years, some well meaning people got the idea that it was progressive to turn a blind eye to these people and allow them to destroy themselves, even enable it by encouraging their addictions with money and safe places to use (so called harm reduction). We've been seeing the disastrous results of these wrong-headed policies and many more have died or seen their addictions and mental health be further harmed as a result of it.
I see some want to try to connect these camps with high housing costs, but that's not accurate. The people living in these camps have mental health and drug addiction issues that prevent them from availing themselves to public housing and homelessness programs. They choose to live outdoors rather than submit to the rules and structure of the voluntary programs that exist to help them. We've got to break ourselves of this libertarian heartlessness masquerading as progressive compassion.
If the results don't produce progress, the policies aren't progressive.
What services are they being referred to? Is there capacity within those services to serve those who are being educated of those services? How do those services help the homeless? Can they get the help needed right away? Are there any shortcomings to current services that you believe need to be expanded?
Referring to services that don't exist, don't have the capacity to help, or provide little/no benefit doesn't help anyone and is an empty gesture at best. It appears you're already acknowledging one gap in services (mental health and drug addiction) but don't convey any answers for 1) How to solve it and 2) What folks are supposed to do in the meantime.
If there are services with excess capacity to help more people, then more outreach needs to take place to get the folks who need them in.
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