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Old 09-12-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Gilbert - Val Vista Lakes
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If you ever try those Blue Supras, you'll never go back. You just point the Supra key at the box. You can also go online and see who has come and gone through the lockbox if needed.
We use Supra boxes on all properties, including our property managed properties, and wouldn't even consider not using the electronic box. I want to know who went in and when.
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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We use Supra boxes on all properties, including our property managed properties, and wouldn't even consider not using the electronic box. I want to know who went in and when.
We are all supra here too. Totally agree. I want to know who was in the house and when.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Needham, MA
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We are all supra here too. Totally agree. I want to know who was in the house and when.
You could attend the showing and then you would know even faster.

Seriously, the debate about lockbox vs accompanied showings could go on and on and be a 100 page thread. I'm a proponent of accompanied showings for a multitude of reasons. However, really what it comes down to is what's locally considered acceptable and does it work for you and your clients?
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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You could attend the showing and then you would know even faster.

Seriously, the debate about lockbox vs accompanied showings could go on and on and be a 100 page thread. I'm a proponent of accompanied showings for a multitude of reasons. However, really what it comes down to is what's locally considered acceptable and does it work for you and your clients?
Real estate would come to a crawl here if we had to schedule appointments with listing and buyer agents to both be there. Luxury homes are, of course, attended by listing agents, but I don't see the need for a listing agent to meet me at a $70,000 junker to show me the hole in the wall and mold damage.

I can see in large metro areas where there are a lot of condo high rises and agents really specialize in a few buildings or a section of town, but for acreage specialists that cover a 150 mile territory...it would be horrible. There isn't anything a listing agent could say in person that they can't tell me over the phone.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Anderson, SC
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My only comment on this thread is that this new member, who joined on 9-11-2011, making his first post and first thread, appears to have the same strategy as a poster in another thread, and may very well be the same person.

He is setting agents up with questions that he will build on in an attempt to discredit the industry. For me, I'm going to follow Mike Pru's lead and not get sucked into these types of threads.

In another thread Mike states that there are two categories of people that he will not respond to, and they are:
This appears to me to be one of those threads, so I won't be participating in the "circular" discussion, as others have termed them.

Agreed!
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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Well, I'm the one who posted this question and was immediately attacked for being stupid and questioning the process that we are finding when looking for a house. I don't know what other poster you are referring to.

I will leave you with this: When we visit homes we are asked to sign a state form that states that the person showing the house works for the seller. So when showing the house they are representing the SELLER. It seems a far leap to imagine that the agent expects and demands more money simply for doing what they are supposed to be doing in the first place - representing the seller and marketing their home.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Well, I'm the one who posted this question and was immediately attacked for being stupid and questioning the process that we are finding when looking for a house. I don't know what other poster you are referring to.

I will leave you with this: When we visit homes we are asked to sign a state form that states that the person showing the house works for the seller. So when showing the house they are representing the SELLER. It seems a far leap to imagine that the agent expects and demands more money simply for doing what they are supposed to be doing in the first place - representing the seller and marketing their home.
No one called you stupid.
No one attacked you.

No one agreed that you should hire an agent who shirks their responsibilities and expects full compensation for doing so.

When an agent discloses their agency relationship at an open house, they are protecting you, as the law demands.
They still do not owe it to your agent to do their job for them and to pay them a premium for failing to do their job, regardless of any existing entitlement mentality.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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the "existing entitlement mentality" is on your side.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Needham, MA
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Real estate would come to a crawl here if we had to schedule appointments with listing and buyer agents to both be there. Luxury homes are, of course, attended by listing agents, but I don't see the need for a listing agent to meet me at a $70,000 junker to show me the hole in the wall and mold damage.

I can see in large metro areas where there are a lot of condo high rises and agents really specialize in a few buildings or a section of town, but for acreage specialists that cover a 150 mile territory...it would be horrible. There isn't anything a listing agent could say in person that they can't tell me over the phone.
I hope you realize I was only joking. I don't believe in lockboxes but I encourage you to do what works for you and do what's considered acceptable in your neck of the woods. What works for me is not necessarily going to work for you. For instance, in my area, we don't really have any "junkers" with holes in the wall and mold. Also, 1 acre is considered a HUGE lot in my town as the average lot is about 10K sf (0.23 acres).

If I were a seller, I wouldn't want a lockbox on my front door, but we've debated this topic in other threads pretty much ad nauseum at this point and I'm not interested in continuing the debate. There are good arguments for both sides.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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the "existing entitlement mentality" is on your side.
It seems to me that "Entitlement mentality" is better defined as expecting to be paid in full for tasks one is not willing or able to perform.

To serve my clients as agreed and go above and beyond from time to time does not imply an "entitlement mentality." Does it really, in your opinion? If so, we can agree that we are worlds apart on that one.
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