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Old 07-21-2011, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet is a result of feminism?
It's also why there are so many plain women in movies and on TV and why there are so many women in general running things, right? Feminism!
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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Actually male Jews run Hollywood. Everyone with a brain knows that
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:13 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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maybe i should ask does "true love" exist but apparently that is some "dumb" expectation that us women have bought into

i was just asking can a guy(or even woman) actually give a f*ck and be faithful.. but i guess thats a myth...

so my analysis of this of all the replies on this thread is...:

expect nothing and you will never be disappointed..
Wow, who said that? You'll never keep a man with that attitude. Of course men care and remain faithful. There are bad ones out there just like there are bad women.

Wanting real life to be like books and movies where the gruff womanizer's heart is melted by the perfect woman, and despite her irritation there is burning passion for his good looks, and she learns that underneath his moody selfishness lies a tender soul yearning for love ... her love ...

Yeah, that doesn't really happen.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:17 AM
 
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It's also why there are so many plain women in movies and on TV and why there are so many women in general running things, right? Feminism!
What the charges of feminism really come down to is an issue of control. That some men are under the erroneous impression that controlling others (women) will give them a sense of control in their own lives and perhaps peace of mind.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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Purely for the heck of it and to see what all the fuss was about, I checked the first book in the "Twilight" series, out from the library. Was rather surprised at how "big" it's been made out to be (are the films any better, b/c I haven't seen them?)

All in all, my impression was that it was just another average book, with a below-average and actually rather-unimpressive writing style But unromantic overall. If young ladies want romance, the more classic tried-and-true fare is much better. Heck, even straight-out Disney was more "romantic" to me, in MHO, than the first "Twilight" novel, after reading it...

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The Twilight series are the equivalent of porn for women. You have an 'ideal' stereotype of a man, E. Cullen, that is described to the highest possible level of detail by the author(his physical appearance mostly), while Bella is given just enough detail so that we know she's female and in love. It gives a chance for women to step into Bella's role and act out the romantic fantasy.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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Purely for the heck of it and to see what all the fuss was about, I checked the first book in the "Twilight" series, out from the library. Was rather surprised at how "big" it's been made out to be (are the films any better, b/c I haven't seen them?)

All in all, my impression was that it was just another average book, with a below-average and actually rather-unimpressive writing style But unromantic overall. If young ladies want romance, the more classic tried-and-true fare is much better. Heck, even straight-out Disney was more "romantic" to me, in MHO, than the first "Twilight" novel, after reading it...
It's coupled with the complete hotness of Pattison's Edward. Of course, you probably cannot incorporate that into any kind of appreciation lol.

I'm sure due to this thread and the books I've been reading, I actually had a vampire dream last night. It was simply comprised of pasty hot guys lol.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I read only the first Twilight book, and what I never understood is, if you're a vampire and you're immortal, why in God's name would you go to high school? On purpose?
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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I read only the first Twilight book, and what I never understood is, if you're a vampire and you're immortal, why in God's name would you go to high school? On purpose?
According to the story, it's so they can stay in the same place for a longer space of time. Still, they could claim home schooling. What has me more curious is that a 102 year old man is hooking up with a 17 year old girl. And his personality is a combination of immaturity and maturity at the same time.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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It's coupled with the complete hotness of Pattison's Edward. Of course, you probably cannot incorporate that into any kind of appreciation lol.

I'm sure due to this thread and the books I've been reading, I actually had a vampire dream last night. It was simply comprised of pasty hot guys lol.
Lol...fair enough

You are right...perhaps the ladies can appreciate "Twilight" more, than the guys can, for the reasons you had cited
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:37 AM
 
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Heck, even straight-out Disney was more "romantic" to me, in MHO, than the first "Twilight" novel, after reading it...
I agree. I watched Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast and Sleeping Beauty as a child and it still resonates with romance.

Romance is not new, it has been around since the third century in literature. It saw a resurgence in Medieval times where it turned into an adventure for the Knight to win the heart of the Lady.

French poetry, Olde English literature, all full of romance. Who can forget Chaucer, Beckett, Lord Byron, the list is endless.
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