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Old 07-20-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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Maxim and FHM don't have explicit covers at all; Typically, just women in bathing suits or workout clothes, very similar to Cosmo covers. BTW, Maxim and others are just Cosmo for men. No nudity or erotic stuff, just articles catering to men.
Google image "maxim covers" and "cosmopolitan covers" and tell me you don't see a difference in the way the cover girls are depicted and in the amount of nudity.

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Old 07-20-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Striving for Avalon
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I think films....particularly 'Chick Flicks'....give Women unrealistic expectations about EVERYTHING.

Chick Flicks show the World as if it really worked like the lowest-common-denominator Female Brain worked.

The rest of Moviedom seems to show the world as if it works like a really, really stupid drugged-out, lowest-common-denominator Male Brain works.

Except, there are the 'artistic films', which show the world through the eyes of a Schizophrenic with 'Creative' pretensions.

None of these models are of much use to one who is trying to learn about the World. Maybe that's why we have so many people running around practically hard-wired with grotesquely distorted views of Life and how things work.

And yeah, films teach Women to go after just the strangest and most dysfunctional chaps.
You win this thread. I agree with you fully.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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It's important to remember that films/books are selling a fantasy. You don't generally sit through a film that is a 2 hour look at the most boring part of someone's day where they stood in line at the DMV for their driver's license. You don't buy a novel where the heroine describes doing the laundry for three chapters, then cuts her toenails, then goes to the bathroom, then changes the baby. It's a form of escapism.

And I think most people are smart enough to know the difference. Of course you want a caring guy, but it's ridiculous to think a guy is going to act like Edward Cullen and stalk you outside your window every night (or if he does, you should call the police.) A guy can be serious without being a brooding Mr. Darcy.
These "chick flick" movies do a disservice to men as well. They seem to teach men if they just try as hard as they can and do more and more over the top romantic gestures any woman will fall in love with them. In reality, those guys are creepy stalkers and get restraining orders because unless they were already attractive to the woman they're just going to come off obsessive and crazy.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:20 PM
 
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That's what my friends said we were like, except with far more beer involved



I think in the beginning of a 'relationship' most guys don't care because they have a woman willing to get down and dirty with them. After that newness wears off, the nit pickiness comes into play. I've talked to many of my guy friends who complain about silly stuff regarding their girlfriends appearance....everything from the way their boobs sit to their oddly shaped toenails. One of my friends even offered to pay for a boob job for his ex because her boobs were 'slightly different'. She had always been fine with them and after that, she obsessed about the very small size difference.
Really? I've honestly never heard a guy IRL complain about anything like that. The only appearance complaints I've ever actually heard is about some one getting fat or that she takes to long to get ready.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:41 PM
 
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I was referring to the explicitness of the models on the magazine covers (which I believe wanneroo was also referring to).
Same, same, really whether the wording or the models, some of it is pretty graphic.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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It's like saying men who watch porn believe every woman is a sex crazed creature unable to resist their body.
No, they don't necessairly believe that. It's more subtle than that. Media influences often work on a more subconscious level, so the effect is more subtle on the surface, but still very much apparent.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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We went and saw the first two films at the drive in, close to their end and in the middle of the week so there were only like...4 cars in the entire place. Me and my friend sat on lawn chairs without the sound on and just dubbed our own lines for the movie. Apparently, according to our other friends (who ended up turning off their radios to listen to our version) we were much better at dialogue than the actual movie

As for unrealistic expectations, I think it's true for both sexes. I think that's where a lot of women get the idea that they can turn a 'bad boy' into marriage material. They want to be that 'one woman' heroine that turns a player into a devoted husband. Blech. For the men, they see these beautiful actresses doing dishes or just hanging out looking nearly perfect...they don't realize that wardrobe and makeup and extensive and that everyday women don't usually look like that while vacuuming the house
That's because everyone else saw the movies on opening weekend which brought in around 70 million. Dark night brought in 67 million.

‘New Moon’ Shatters Opening Day Record - Box Office Mojo
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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I don't know about regular movies, but the likes of Edward Cullen catapult me into a mid-life crisis of tween angst.
Yeah...but for me it's Edward Cullen in the book-Robert Pattinson who plays Edward Cullen does NOTHING for me, lol. And he's a terrible actor. I actually liked Jacob better in the movies.

But you are exactly right the book captures the feelings of teenage angst...Twilight clearly captures the elusive fantasy that most girls think is love. It was fun to go back and remember that.

The writing was not spectacular...however...Stephanie Meyers is a fantastic story teller...she certainly has a lot of talent. Some of the plot and writing was irritating. I wanted to chuck book 4 across the room... I had to skip about 200 pages. (Which I almost never do when reading a book.)
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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I think that films tend to give off unrealistic portrayals of relationships.

There are exceptions, two of recent that I can think of are Inception, and Revolutionary Road (ironically both have the same male lead). I thought Inception was a really great piece on relationships beneath all of the metaphorical things (good writing as well). I don't think the "Twilight/New Moon" crowd was lined up at 12am to see Inception on opening day.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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That's because everyone else saw the movies on opening weekend which brought in around 70 million. Dark night brought in 67 million.

‘New Moon’ Shatters Opening Day Record - Box Office Mojo
Nobody I know saw the movies on opening weekend.... we usually wait for crappy movies to play at the drive in, then wait and see them at the last moment.

And to geek out for a bit, Harry Potter brought in a little over 160 million in it's opening weekend...and their heroine was a very bright, intelligent girl who wasn't whiny and actually kicked some ass
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