Paying for Dates (females, love, husband, college)
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I didn't even think much about who pays for dates until threads about it started popping up on here. Maybe I'm old fashioned but in my limited relationship experience, the guy has paid 90 percent of the time. Once I'm serious with someone, I do make him dinner often, bake him sweets, occasionally pick up the tab when we go out and get him gifts when I'm out at the mall or somewhere and spot something he'd like. I don't think it's been a problem.
I didn't even think much about who pays for dates until threads about it started popping up on here. Maybe I'm old fashioned but in my limited relationship experience, the guy has paid 90 percent of the time.
You're not "old fashioned". This is how it's done by me too.
Maybe, you are old fashioned too? Only when that benefits you, that is.
The problem is, that many people living in 2012, want to think of women as independent and earning an income. The notion of a man always taking care of his little princess, belongs with the set of social norms found in 1950s and before. Women want to pick and choose when to be traditional and when to be progressive, based on the benefits they get from it. If you want me to pamper you and always pay your way, make sure we are going to my house later and you can clean my house and wash my socks as well. How hypocritical can one really be?
Maybe, you are old fashioned too? Only when that benefits you, that is.
No. I've never (thankfully) ever met men would NOT pay on the first date. I wouldn't even "pretend" to go for my wallet nor have my eyes look "elsewhere" as someone else has said. I would EXPECT him to.
It's just "normal" in MY world and it has been since I was a teenager.
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The problem is, that many people living in 2012, want to think of women as independent and earning an income. The notion of a man always taking care of his little princess, belongs with the set of social norms found in 1950s and before. Women want to pick and choose when to be traditional and when to be progressive, based on the benefits they get from it. If you want me to pamper you and always pay your way, make sure we are going to my house later and you can clean my house and wash my socks as well. How hypocritical can one really be?
Maybe, you are old fashioned too? Only when that benefits you, that is.
The problem is, that many people living in 2012, want to think of women as independent and earning an income. The notion of a man always taking care of his little princess, belongs with the set of social norms found in 1950s and before. Women want to pick and choose when to be traditional and when to be progressive, based on the benefits they get from it. If you want me to pamper you and always pay your way, make sure we are going to my house later and you can clean my house and wash my socks as well. How hypocritical can one really be?
I think this is a silly comparison. Even in the 50s, I don't think women did the cleaning and laundry for guys they just went on a date with. But if it was back then, the guy would have to pay for the dates and the woman wouldn't sleep with him until they were married...and once they were married, the man would be expected to earn enough to support the entire family. Only then would the woman be cleaning the house, washing his socks and making his dinner. At least I think that's how it worked.
And any guy who says that paying for a woman's chopped salad and iced tea on the first date is "treating her like a princess" has an odd idea of what royalty is like.
And any guy who says that paying for a woman's chopped salad and iced tea on the first date is "treating her like a princess" has an odd idea of what royalty is like.
He's also not getting any either.
And if he is, I'm sure it's not with anyone most men would want.
And people wonder why I advocate splitting the bill. It is to prevent these kinds of jerks thinking they can get a free Mod cut: language.
lol .
That angry poster sounds like my ex, which will have decent women running for the hills.
A decent man wouldnt have issue with paying, and will be treated in reciprocal fashion. if however, he hasnt even take a woman on a date yet, and specifies that he should be treated, or wants everything tallied up even before going out, then he isnt worth going out with in the first place.
And any guy who says that paying for a woman's chopped salad and iced tea on the first date is "treating her like a princess" has an odd idea of what royalty is like.
and thats just it, in my experience, first date dinners are more modest than say an anniversary dinner, so the expense shouldnt be that large. Like I said on another thread, I think its the principal that causes some guys to not want to pay even $15 on a date, that somehow the woman has put one over on them. At the end of the day, it doesnt cost you much to make a good impression on a first date and if you eventually meet your wife, are you going to look back on that first date with her and complain that you paid for it?
and thats just it, in my experience, first date dinners are more modest than say an anniversary dinner, so the expense shouldnt be that large. Like I said on another thread, I think its the principal that causes some guys to not want to pay even $15 on a date, that somehow the woman has put one over on them. At the end of the day, it doesnt cost you much to make a good impression on a first date and if you eventually meet your wife, are you going to look back on that first date with her and complain that you paid for it?
Okay Darrensmooth.
Could you please elaborate more on this "principal" that you keep talking about?
What "principal" is it where a man feels "offended" to have to pay for a date?
Also, what "type" of men are these?
Thanks.
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At least I think that's how it worked.
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