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Old 03-09-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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From personal experience, I do think it is tougher for black women for sure.

 
Old 03-09-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: around racist white people
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There is a real or perceived black male shortage. Also, there is a well known tendency for black women to prefer only black men. Whether this is true or not, this perception creates a dating market skewed in black men's favor, especially for educated or successful ones like me.
Your the minority, black men have no advantages in dating since most are looked upon as poor, any race, a man who is educated will have a ton of options.

Black men statically are at a disadvantage in dating over a advantage.
 
Old 03-09-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Your the minority, black men have no advantages in dating since most are looked upon as poor, any race, a man who is educated will have a ton of options.

Black men statically are at a disadvantage in dating over a advantage.
I clearly stated black men have an advantage "within the race", ie with black women. This includes both educated and non-educated black men. Even prison thugs have no problem finding women. I used to work in law enforcement and almost every felon had a woman waiting on him when he was released.

In fact, the only black men I've known who had problems finding women were high school age smart guys/nerds, when the numbers are still generally even between the genders. College and the adult dating market are entirely lopsided, however.

If you're talking about disadvantages with non-black women because of racial preferences and stereotypes, I certainly agree. But your OP said nothing about interracial dating, and the huge dating market advantages black men have with black women, overcompensate for disadvantages with non-black women regardless.
 
Old 03-09-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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There is a real or perceived black male shortage. Also, there is a well known tendency for black women to prefer only black men. Whether these perceptions are real or not, it creates a dating market skewed in black men's favor, especially for educated or successful ones like me. Step foot on any HBCU campus or go to places where professional African-Americans are, and you'll see what I mean. Heck, you can even go to the "hood" and see the skewed gender ratios.
LOL. So true. I have a friend with a PHD from a top tier school, no kids and he owns a condo. He's got a waiting list of 30 women. And who knows how many waiting in the wings.
 
Old 03-09-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: around racist white people
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I clearly stated black men have an advantage "within the race", ie with black women. This includes both educated and non-educated black men. Even prison thugs have no problem finding women.

If you're talking about disadvantages with non-black women because of racial stereotypes, I certainly agree. But the OP said nothing about interracial dating, and the huge dating market advantages black men have with black women more than compensate for disadvantages with non-black women.
Within the race? Whatever advantages we have its surely diminishing. Thugs get the lowest of the low in terms of women, interracial dating is soaring and the only reason black women aren't into it heaps and bounds is because currently the majority aren't seemed as attractive to the men of others races, that's not a knock but that's the perception but black women, like most women think security and safety and it'd a good reason why black men have it harder when it comes to dating.

You're the minority once again.
 
Old 03-09-2012, 02:51 PM
 
Location: FL
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LOL. So true. I have a friend with a PHD from a top tier school, no kids and he owns a condo. He's got a waiting list of 30 women. And who knows how many waiting in the wings.
In general sure. However, it's all about the location.
 
Old 03-09-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Within the race? Whatever advantages we have its surely diminishing. Thugs get the lowest of the low in terms of women, interracial dating is soaring and the only reason black women aren't into it heaps and bounds is because currently the majority aren't seemed as attractive to the men of others races, that's not a knock but that's the perception but black women, like most women think security and safety and it'd a good reason why black men have it harder when it comes to dating.

You're the minority once again.
In other words, find an idiot to pay all her bills. And btw, the primary reason most Black women aren't into interracial dating is because most have almost nothing in common with most non-Black men because of cultural differences, likes, dislikes, preferences, etc. If two people have nothing or very little in common, it just won't work out (and most people know this).

I'm a minority who grew up in an all white/Jewish upper middle class suburb on the east coast and even I don't really have all that much in common with white people, so if I don't even have that much in common, there's no way most Black women would mesh well with non-Black men (except for maybe certain Hispanics like Puerto Ricans and Dominicans).

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Old 03-09-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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In other words, find an idiot to pay all her bills. And btw, the primary reason most Black women aren't into interracial dating is because most have almost nothing in common with most non-Black men because of cultural differences, likes, dislikes, preferences, etc. If two people have nothing or very little in common, it just won't work out.
Little in common? Like what? If two people have a good job and have a active social life what's the difficult part? White men and asian women get along just fine, nothing is wrong with black women especially the educated ones. If anything hurts them it's negative stereotypes.
 
Old 03-09-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Since statically they make less money, I'm speaking mostly men here but what's your opinion?
Ethnicity has nothing to do with having less money, or an easier time dating.

Let's say that guy #1 of "ethnicity A" earns $26,000 per year and guy #2 of "ethnicity B" earns $60,000 per year.

Both guys are going to have an equal playing field, because guy #1 will date in his socio-economic pool, and guy #2 will stay within his pool or take a step down.

Both guys are going to date, but guy #1 might feel more pressure to use money he doesn't have to take his date out than guy #2 because he has less money to work with, not because he's of "ethnicity A", and not of "ethnicity B".
 
Old 03-09-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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Little in common? Like what? If two people have a good job and have a active social life what's the difficult part? White men and asian women get along just fine, nothing is wrong with black women especially the educated ones. If anything hurts them it's negative stereotypes.
Trust me, I probably know over 750 Black women and even educated Black women don't have all that much in common with most non-Black men; at least not enough to sustain a serious relationship. The only Black women who truly mesh well with non-Black men are the one's who basically grew up around whites, have mostly white friends, went to mostly white schools, and for the most part are 100% culturally white. Of course, you also have Black women who have been dogged many times by Black men, and as a result, they start dating White guys; and the Black women who are ashamed of being Black and therefore date non-Black men exclusively because they have a lot of self-hate.

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