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Old 08-23-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by Knight2009 View Post
With all due respect intended, I believe my words are being twisted to mean something I didn't mean...my comment about paralysis and physical disability was in the context of the earlier post comment of "Anybody can get a wo/man", in which the poster was listing various perceived undesirable traits about an example person, among them, dirtiness, poverty, and mental illness.

My point was, as much as people would like to think that anyone can get a romantic partner under any potential circumstance, that is sadly very likely not true, paralysis being among one of the conditions that would make it significantly even less so...no need to split hairs though...

ETA: I was trying to make a point largely against social Darwinism...
you still don't get it. we got your intended point. it was such a terrible way to make it that your argument in fact detracted from your point

regardless of how badly you think shyness handicaps you in the dating world, it's a bad idea to try to make your point by making an analogy with paralysis. any reasonable person sees right through this attempt to piggyback on the sympathy reserved for such sad, disabling and permanent conditions

if you weren't so single minded complaining about how shy guys get the shaft you would see how sad and unconvincing this comparison is to most people

sure i can feel compassion for shyness. it can really suck. but that compassion is dwarfed by my compassion for someone who, say, had their spine severed by a drunk driver. bringing up the latter makes my sympathy for the former seem insignificant

 
Old 08-23-2012, 09:31 AM
 
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you still don't get it. we got your intended point. it was such a terrible way to make it that your argument in fact detracted from your point

regardless of how badly you think shyness handicaps you in the dating world, it's a bad idea to try to make your point by making an analogy with paralysis. any reasonable person sees right through this attempt to piggyback on the sympathy reserved for such sad, disabling and permanent conditions

if you weren't so single minded complaining about how shy guys get the shaft you would see how sad and unconvincing this comparison is to most people

sure i can feel compassion for shyness. it can really suck. but that compassion is dwarfed by my compassion for someone who, say, had their spine severed by a drunk driver. bringing up the latter makes my sympathy for the former seem insignificant
You seem to be intentionally distorting my words. I never equated shyness to the same level of severity as paralysis -- yet you seem to be claiming I did (?) That whole set of sub-posts by me was about the stigma of physical disability, independently of shyness -- if you look at the very first post I made about this in response to the claim that "anyone can get a wo/man", you will see this is true. I am not by any means trying to "piggyback" or seek "sympathy", as you claim.

Please do not say that I said things that I did not, in fact, say.

ETA: this quote below is what I was talking about, regarding physical disability -- please notice that there is no reference to "shyness" in there, is there??

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Exactly. I've known this one man a long time. He suffers from full blown schizophrenia and frequently commits himself. But he tries at life- he's into art, Buddhism, healing. He's scary looking, sports a mullet, sweats constantly, is quite dirty, and lives off SSDI. He just changed his relationship status on fb to in a relationship. Anybody can get a wo/man.

ETA: also, the post directly preceding the quoted one above, as the parent-level post (also no refererence whatsoever to "shyness", as you can plainly see):

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Unless you are extremely ugly, small and in extreme poverty I think you always have a chance to find a girl. The only MAJOR problem for most guys is getting the girl they want...
As evidenced by these quoted portions, your statements are, therefore, clearly taking my words out of the content that I put them in.

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Old 08-23-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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Knight, all your paralysis talk doesn't dispute the point.
 
Old 08-23-2012, 11:47 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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How to Tell if a Girl is Horny Without Her Having to Tell You | Girls Chase
 
Old 08-23-2012, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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"Mean means horny"?

In my case, mean means GTFO of my face before I introduce it to my elbow.

 
Old 08-24-2012, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Geauga County, Ohio
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"Mean means horny"?

In my case, mean means GTFO of my face before I introduce it to my elbow.

Yeah...that article...um, no. For me, if I'm horny, my husband knows, as did all other men I have been involved with. Maybe I'm just direct like that.
 
Old 08-24-2012, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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Yeah...that article...um, no. For me, if I'm horny, my husband knows, as did all other men I have been involved with. Maybe I'm just direct like that.
Yeah...love that article. If I was/am in the mood, mean is the last thing I'm being. LOL If I'm being mean, (or WAS being mean), it means I want you to get away from me!! BACK OFF!!! I'm definitely another direct person!
 
Old 08-24-2012, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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It's American culture. Back in the day I did some promotional work for rock bands touring Quebec..(French culture)...It was a pleasant surprise to find that if a French girl was attracted to you- They would be right in your face- no silly posturing - fear of rejection- It might be about confidence? Or maybe the problem with some American females is that they have been programmed to believe that most men are bad .....and feminism has instilled this belief - You don't NEED a man..so some might think of themselves as independent and deny themselves the comfort and pleasure of a man..which is like cutting of your nose to spite your face..
 
Old 08-24-2012, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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It's American culture. Back in the day I did some promotional work for rock bands touring Quebec..(French culture)...It was a pleasant surprise to find that if a French girl was attracted to you- They would be right in your face- no silly posturing - fear of rejection- It might be about confidence? Or maybe the problem with some American females is that they have been programmed to believe that most men are bad .....and feminism has instilled this belief - You don't NEED a man..so some might think of themselves as independent and deny themselves the comfort and pleasure of a man..which is like cutting of your nose to spite your face..
Is is really that?...or is it simply that Americans have such a terrible fear of rejection? Combine that with a defense mechanism that says, "I'm ready for your rejection...you're going to reject me anyway, so here's how I'm going to deal with it!" So many don't realize that if you're rejected, it's a GOOD thing!... in romance, anyway!" Don't you want someone to want you for the RIGHT reasons? Just because someone doesn't want to be with you, it doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you. It just means that they're not RIGHT for you, and/or that they feel you're not the right person for them!
 
Old 08-24-2012, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Geauga County, Ohio
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach View Post
It's American culture. Back in the day I did some promotional work for rock bands touring Quebec..(French culture)...It was a pleasant surprise to find that if a French girl was attracted to you- They would be right in your face- no silly posturing - fear of rejection- It might be about confidence? Or maybe the problem with some American females is that they have been programmed to believe that most men are bad .....and feminism has instilled this belief - You don't NEED a man..so some might think of themselves as independent and deny themselves the comfort and pleasure of a man..which is like cutting of your nose to spite your face..
That is a good point. It sometimes seems that the feminist movement, which started out as a great thing, has turned basically into man-bashing.
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