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Thank goodness we have laws that force men like you to take responsibility for what you do. And of course you will keep breeding irresponsible miniature versions of you in the world.
Most men I know who wanted, got out of it pretty easy by simply moving. I did that too at first, moved to England. But then realized that the easy path is not the best, and I came back and helped out.
Do you believe a woman should get permission from the man before she gets an abortion?
Why or why not?
I think an act of self harm, which is what abortion is, is a personal decision. It's not one for you or I to make. Although, my personal preferences are that dumb asses would not breed at all, let alone get the permission from the dumb ass male counterpart, but I cannot force that one someone. The fact is you contributed to creating a child. You don't have a say in abortion (the same way you cannot be forced into a vasectomy even tho that would probably be for best), yet you are still responsible for the child you helped create.
Most men I know who wanted, got out of it pretty easy by simply moving. I did that too at first, moved to England. But then realized that the easy path is not the best, and I came back and helped out.
That's hypocrisy and why I'm against it on a legal level.
If it's your own child, then you can prevent her from harming it. It only seems to become your own child when she wants money from you.
You seem to be overlooking something huge. YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER. WEAR A CONDOM. You know the consequences of your actions. YOU HAVE A CHOICE.
That's hypocrisy and why I'm against it on a legal level.
If it's your own child, then you can prevent her from harming it. It only seems to become your own child when she wants money from you.
It becomes a child, it's not conceived as a child. That's why it's fuzzy. It's not an easy thing, and it's not fair to either involved, but that's life. The woman has to bear the abortion or the birth. Both are more physically traumatizing that anything you will likely have endure in your life until you drop dead. So, neither has a fair shake of it. Too bad. And give me a break with the money crap, as if a majority of you give anything worth much. How much would you have to be paid to have a vacuum shoved up your ass and have your insides sucked out? What price tag would you put on that? How about being paid for a pregnancy that goes on 24/7 for 9 months? A woman has to change her life, warp her body, and make sacrifices you will never grasp and she does it for zero money. You need to grow up and smarten up, especially since you have kids of your own.
Not yet, tho my husband and I are currently in the midst of starting/having our planned family as mature adults do. No accidents because he didn't want to wear a condom. I wouldn't have a sex with a man that utters such stupidity in the fist place, so even if an accident happened it still would have been good because I'm with a man who has his emotional and psychological shyte together.
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You seem to be overlooking something huge. YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER. WEAR A CONDOM. You know the consequences of your actions. YOU HAVE A CHOICE.
Exactly. That's his choice, but he ignores it. And if he doesn't like condoms and cannot figure out other ways of enjoying time in bed with his partner, than he's likely not a sexually creative person.
Too bad. And give me a break with the money crap, as if a majority of you give anything worth much. How much would you have to be paid to have a vacuum shoved up your ass and have your insides sucked out?
The one girl I saw off to an abortion clinic, took a pill and then later went to the bathroom. As easy as some early miscarriage- not saying that's easy. Abortions done at such late stages (as you describe) disgust me and should be illegal. And in most states are pretty much.
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What price tag would you put on that? How about being paid for a pregnancy that goes on 24/7 for 9 months? A woman has to change her life, warp her body, and make sacrifices you will never grasp and she does it for zero money. You need to grow up and smarten up, especially since you have kids of your own.
But the point is it was her choice to change her life and mine. It's easy to be so judgmental at the internet forum, and I won't go through my entire life story here to explain the backdrop. But you're making this out to be about me which it ain't.
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