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If the roles were reversed and sexually women were much easier to satisfy than men. Then the roles would also be reversed in the selfish stakes, with the women fitting that mantle. Thats what it comes down to. Nature favours the superior gender (males) not only sexually but in many other ways.
I hear this complaint from women a lot. The man always makes sure his needs are met, but he doesn't satisfy his partner.
I think it is extremely important for both partners to try really hard to please each other. To be sure, some women are selfish in bed, but i know men have more of a reputation for being selfish. Is this deserved? What do you ladies think?
I can't speak for other women, but most of the men that I have been in relationships with, are quite the considerate lover.
And saying "I'm done. Go make my sandwich" is not really going to extend the circle of love.
LOL! Thanks for my laugh of the morning!
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Originally Posted by dave nz
Not something I've had directed at me. I'm unselfish there and in life often too.
Have heard it from some girls/women though......To be fair to some men that are, men are much easier to please sexually than women usually. Thats a big reason why.
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Originally Posted by dave nz
If the roles were reversed and sexually women were much easier to satisfy than men. Then the roles would also be reversed in the selfish stakes, with the women fitting that mantle. Thats what it comes down to. Nature favours the superior gender (males) not only sexually but in many other ways.
dave nz, nail on head. Threads like this make me wonder if people are really that unaware of how very different men and women are in this respect.
If the roles were reversed and sexually women were much easier to satisfy than men. Then the roles would also be reversed in the selfish stakes, with the women fitting that mantle. Thats what it comes down to. Nature favours the superior gender (males) not only sexually but in many other ways.
I can't speak for other women, but most of the men that I have been in relationships with, are quite the considerate lover.
And really this is a result of age, experience and consideration. To be a good lover, all parties involved should have a smile on their face when finished. (Most of the time)
Hopefully the more we age the wiser we are with what satisfies our partners. It's one reason I've always said most women get better as they age and that goes for in the bed also. I would assume it's semi-true for men also.
I know enough to conclude my opinion from my observations and studies of what men do and say/ Nowhere did I state, suggest, imply, or mention I think I'm an expert.
I did state in my opinion guys are selfish in bed considering seemingly common male mindsets of 'her orgasm is her responsibility' and studies showing gals give more than they get while guys get more than they give.
You also pointed out that it may be biological since male orgasm is needed for procreation and female orgasms is not. I don't think anyone could seriously argue with the fact that there is an "orgasm gap" but rather with your attributing it to male selfishness. About 10% women have never orgasmed by any means, and you can't pin that one on the man, so there is inherently going to be a "gap". If a female is not biologically predisposed to orgasm, don't blame the man, take it up with God.
And her orgasm is her responsibility, just as his orgasm is his responsibility. That doesn't mean the partner ignores your needs or doesn't try to help. As you said, only a third women get it through intercourse so a man needs to do other things besides pump and run, but in the end you have to want it and make an effort too. Nobody can "give" you an orgasm. As I said, nothing strokes the male ego more than getting her off.
I'd bet the reason men receive oral more often is simply because they ask for it. Some women enjoy the act itself but most do it because they enjoy seeing the guy get all worked up. And he tends to give clear signals when it's working and of course it's rather obvious when he gets the happy ending. Extending it further, I'd say men orgasm more often because they make it their mission. Men tend to lead the action and so he will lead it how he needs it to get off. The women that get off nearly always tend to take the same approach, making it their mission and asking for what they need and giving clear signals whether it's working or not.
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