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Old 01-12-2013, 08:19 PM
 
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How frequently do romantic "exceptions to the rule" occur? Would you put a numeric estimate on the frequency with which they statistically appear in society (i.e., 1-2%, etc.)?

Some examples of what I mean by "exceptions":

1. A stereotypical but also genuinely nice guy who attracts, rather than repels women
2. A woman who is extremely attractive physically, but is also not automatically attracted to stereotypical qualities like power, status, confidence, etc. in men
3. A man who will readily date women regardless of their physical looks, and dates solely based on personality alone
4. A woman who believes that chemistry can still be acquired over time even if it is not initially present, or that a lack of initial chemistry can be successfully overcome by other external factors
...etc.

Also, do you believe that the frequency with which exceptions to the rule occur is primarily based on nature or nurture? What (if anything) do you believe could make exceptions more likely to occur?

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Old 01-12-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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How can you put a stat to that?
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:24 PM
 
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Does it matter how frequently? Just know that it happens.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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Some here figure your kissing arse if your a romantic & you just want sex from your SO.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:45 PM
 
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x% I don't know what x is, but I can tell you it's x% lol.
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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How frequently do romantic "exceptions to the rule" occur? Would you put a numeric estimate on the frequency with which they statistically appear in society (i.e., 1-2%, etc.)?

Some examples of what I mean by "exceptions":

1. A stereotypical but also genuinely nice guy who attracts, rather than repels women
2. A woman who is extremely attractive physically, but is also not automatically attracted to stereotypical qualities like power, status, confidence, etc. in men
3. A man who will readily date women regardless of their physical looks, and dates solely based on personality alone
4. A woman who believes that chemistry can still be acquired over time even if it is not initially present, or that a lack of initial chemistry can be successfully overcome by other external factors
...etc.

Also, do you believe that the frequency with which exceptions to the rule occur is primarily based on nature or nurture? What (if anything) do you believe could make exceptions more likely to occur?
1. Rarely. But for a very good reason. Most guys women judge as "too nice" are, in fact, passive-aggressive types who feel their "nice" demeanor entitles them to women's affections.
2. Occasionally. Beautiful people, both male and female, are frequently fawned over by others and can develop a strong sense of entitlement. People with a strong sense of entitlement often gravitate to other people who seem entitled--i.e. possess wealth, power, etc.
3. Never.
4. Actually, I have found this to be quite common. In my experience, it is men, rather than women, who are all about instant chemistry.

I think very little about human being is based on "nature." Most of what we are is the result of social conditioning. Evolutionary psychology is very trendy right now, so lots of people talk about how we are "hard-wired" for this, that and the other. The fact is, there is no way to know for sure whether something in learned or innate. Just because you feel something particularly strongly doesn't mean you didn't learn it.

As for points 2 and 3, the answer is a culture that commodifies people less and a socialization process that doesn't put such a high premium on looks relative to other factors. Yes, people will always be drawn to beauty. That is innate. But disregarding everything but beauty is learned.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:57 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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How frequently do romantic "exceptions to the rule" occur? Would you put a numeric estimate on the frequency with which they statistically appear in society (i.e., 1-2%, etc.)?

Some examples of what I mean by "exceptions":

1. A stereotypical but also genuinely nice guy who attracts, rather than repels women
2. A woman who is extremely attractive physically, but is also not automatically attracted to stereotypical qualities like power, status, confidence, etc. in men
3. A man who will readily date women regardless of their physical looks, and dates solely based on personality alone
4. A woman who believes that chemistry can still be acquired over time even if it is not initially present, or that a lack of initial chemistry can be successfully overcome by other external factors
...etc.

Also, do you believe that the frequency with which exceptions to the rule occur is primarily based on nature or nurture? What (if anything) do you believe could make exceptions more likely to occur?
These happen often, Especially after one might have been in the dating game a while and they changed their views based on their experience. And are looking for LTR/Marriage.

The "nice guys" who are stable as well will get women who are looking for a relationship without the typical bad boy drama. The women mentioned above maybe realized jerks can be successful too, And the idea of a lifetime commitment is more important then stuff. it is. What is stuff? You can lose it all tomorrow anyway.

A winning personality is important. There is nothing worse then feeling you need to act a certain way while in a relationship. Being a chameleon is not something most can do for years.

Chemistry usually begins right away though. I think it's hard to develop that. love takes more time I think.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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I think these things can and do happen. I don't think I can put a statistic on it, but I know it happens.

It is a wonderful thing when things like this do occur.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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(when are we going to get more emoticons here?)
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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You're talking about "the rules" formulated by the social outcasts on this forum.
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