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Old 02-04-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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But let's talk about this gorgeous model for a little longer. Do you honestly believe she will find a decent man in the future? I think her chance is slim. and I will tell you why.

A. Many unmarried men or divorced men her age or slightly older than her would want kids. She cannot provide that, this will create a problem in the marriage.

B. Many men who are divorced with kids would want her, so her choice will go down to single fathers. Will she be completely happy dealing with other people's children? Only she can answer that question. She has to deal with men with baggages.

C. Her best shot is a successful good men who does not want kids in the future. Where can she find such men? Where?

Men and women are so different when they age. Men over 40 are still considered to be in their prime, women over 40.. This is exactly why when women reached to a certain age 30, we all get a bit desperate. (weather we want to admit it or not.) I am only being honest here.
Not true in all areas. I am 42 and not giving up the idea of having kids, whether biological or adoptive so maybe she feels the same way. I know women older than me who have had kids. If she wants kids or does not she would be stupid only dating single dads unless she is fine being a stepmom only. This whole a man over 40 is in his prime is a big myth and the only men at that age who are in their prime are either handsome or successful like George Clooney. I'm not even sure where this idea came from that older women need to settle but men don't.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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The more education you have and the smarter you are often limits the pool of people you can connect with. Screen even further for looks and you can see that sometimes things are not as they appear.
Absolutely. Water seeks its own level. When you put together a combination like looks, intelligence, and money, and people who seek to date/marry an equal, they have a seriously constrained dating pool.

My issue was with people like the OP who are enthralled by the lawyer or doctor. I've got a friend from NYC living out West, and she is, by choice, in a child-free marriage and both of them have good jobs. Her attitude toward women like this: "Get it yourself!"
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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I wouldn't fault him for being on there after six years, but I think it's kind of weird he's never had more than 3 dates with anyone. I did match for a year and there were several guys I dated for a month or two. Things didn't last, but the inability to get past 3 dates is kind of concerning. I wouldn't have any kind of expectations about meeting him.
Please refer to Post 48.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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Absolutely. Water seeks its own level. When you put together a combination like looks, intelligence, and money, and people who seek to date/marry an equal, they have a seriously constrained dating pool.

My issue was with people like the OP who are enthralled by the lawyer or doctor. I've got a friend from NYC living out West, and she is, by choice, in a child-free marriage and both of them have good jobs. Her attitude toward women like this: "Get it yourself!"
I'm inclined to agree, going by a few of her posts. I think too many women (men too but a lesser degree)go by a man does instead of what kind of guy he is. I think that is why she truly believes that older women can only date dads instead of men their age. We all know that men like a 42 year old doctor has more choices than the average 42 year old man.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:24 PM
 
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Not true in all areas. I am 42 and not giving up the idea of having kids, whether biological or adoptive so maybe she feels the same way. I know women older than me who have had kids. If she wants kids or does not she would be stupid only dating single dads unless she is fine being a stepmom only. This whole a man over 40 is in his prime is a big myth and the only men at that age who are in their prime are either handsome or successful like George Clooney. I'm not even sure where this idea came from that older women need to settle but men don't.
George Clooney is a good example. Here you have someone who most people consider a great guy, comes from a good family that is very successful, and from all accounts is a practicing Catholic. Here's someone who can have whoever he wants, and he's single. Finding the package you want is difficult.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Not true in all areas. I am 42 and not giving up the idea of having kids, whether biological or adoptive so maybe she feels the same way. I know women older than me who have had kids. If she wants kids or does not she would be stupid only dating single dads unless she is fine being a stepmom only. This whole a man over 40 is in his prime is a big myth and the only men at that age who are in their prime are either handsome or successful like George Clooney. I'm not even sure where this idea came from that older women need to settle but men don't.
No, nobody need to settle with ANYBODY. Quite frankly, men who make a lot of money intimidate me a LOT. But I come to a realization that a lot of handsome successful men just want a decent woman. Youjust have to make yourself available to them. Men shouldn't settle, women shouldn't either. But this whole "kid" thing can make everything too complicated, especially for women in their 40s.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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I think the point was that she got to this point, age 43 and still single, because she hasn't been able to get dates all this time, probably with a few exceptions. She wasn't 43 all her life, you know.

I think jgardener makes a good point. Sometimes it's a matter of just not having met the right person. Probably with a model, the nice guys were too shy to approach, so the only guys who approached her were the more arrogant types, or ones who only wanted sex, and all that. I know a woman who was gorgeous, but she only ever got approached by sleazes. So she gained 50 lbs., and suddenly, the nice guys who had thought she was out of their league before, began to approach her. She's happily married now to one of those guys. It's kind of sad how great guys, decent guys, take themselves out of the running with this "league" mentality. Everybody loses. A lot of gorgeous women just want a nice, down-to-earth decent guy.
Very true. When I was in my 20's slim and a model I was rarely approached by decent men. By decent I mean men who were average in terms of jobs, looks etc and approached by some of the creepiest men (usually older men asking for sex). I couldn't figure this out until I asked a platonic male friend and he said because men assumed I wouldn't give them the time of day. This is actually the problem I am having with Taco Man because he is convinced I wouldn't want to date him because he thinks he is ugly and undeserving of me. Interestingly, now that I am older and heavier I get approached by men I wish had approached me when I was younger but they never did because they assumed I'd say no.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'm inclined to agree, going by a few of her posts. I think too many women (men too but a lesser degree)go by a man does instead of what kind of guy he is. I think that is why she truly believes that older women can only date dads instead of men their age. We all know that men like a 42 year old doctor has more choices than the average 42 year old man.

that is not TRUE at all, so not TRUE>

It is funny to me that if a woman HAPPEN to get on a date with doctor, she is automatically a gold digger. If I tell you I have dated a starving artist, a single father who is nothing but a payrole specialist, you would be surprised.

It is not about what he does, it is about what he is all about.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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George Clooney is a good example. Here you have someone who most people consider a great guy, comes from a good family that is very successful, and from all accounts is a practicing Catholic. Here's someone who can have whoever he wants, and he's single. Finding the package you want is difficult.
He's Catholic? I didn't know that but yes he does have the whole package. I do think in his case he doesn't want to settle (makes sense)and he knows with his combo he doesn't have to. However most men don't have half of what he has and often thinks because he is him they can emulate him too.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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George Clooney is a good example. Here you have someone who most people consider a great guy, comes from a good family that is very successful, and from all accounts is a practicing Catholic. Here's someone who can have whoever he wants, and he's single. Finding the package you want is difficult.
I don't think using him as an example is that appropriate here, since he's an entertainer.

He's a player, and I'm sure what's in his head is more complicated than that. I think he is nominally Catholic ... or there would be pictures of him heading to Mass. The other thing is that the "great guy" moniker is liberally applied. If you've seen him interviewed, he plays it safe and is unconvincingly self-deprecating. As for the so-called "great guys" in school, they were completely neutral on all things and were conformists, always saying and doing the right thing.

He could have settled down a long time ago. However, he, or his agent, keeps finding decorations for his arm who are starlets and not marriage material. Much of the Hollywood crowd is not marriage material to begin with.
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