Do strippers/prostitutes eventually start to resent men? (dating, lesbians, married)
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I've wondered about this. Dunno if this or the psychological forum is the most appropriate, but since it's relevant to relationships...
Strippers and prostitutes, I would think, would develop a rather jaded, cynical, and negative view towards men. It's only natural. Not saying all, but I think most. If you feel you're constantly being used for sex day in day out you might begin to see men as lecherous, pathetic and one-dimensional, and lose respect for them. Of course many women CHOOSE this career path and some actually enjoy it or don't mind it and still don't think differently of men, but I've heard anecdotally that many prostitutes and strippers eventually get so turned off men, because they associate them with work and loveless or even pleasureless sex, that they become lesbians. Is there truth to that?
Do you think many strippers/prostitutes become resentful towards men in general?
I don't think the strippers I've met resent men...but maybe that's because I'm polite to them, so they don't hate me...presumably. I'm sure there are some people who make them hate their jobs though...and I'm not sure how numerous those people are. They might be pretty numerous.
Unfortunately, there may be this view of them as trash not deserving of respect rather than mothers supporting their children...etc.
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Maybe despise and don't respect is a better word. On one hand they rely on them, on the other they see them as both beneath them and also using them. It's a love/hate relationship.
Maybe despise and don't respect is a better word. On one hand they rely on them, on the other they see them as both beneath them and also using them. It's a love/hate relationship.
Some of them might think of themselves as artists too.
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Originally Posted by Clintone
I don't think the strippers I've met resent men...but maybe that's because I'm polite to them, so they don't hate me...presumably. I'm sure there are some people who make them hate their jobs though...and I'm not sure how numerous those people are. They might be pretty numerous.
Unfortunately, there may be this view of them as trash not deserving of respect rather than mothers supporting their children...etc.
That's true, a lot of their clients probably don't respect them by default. One time when I was at a strip club (one of the few times I've been, I went with a friend I hadn't seen for ages who insisted on going) one of the strippers threw an ice cube at my crotch. Whether on purpose or carelessly (either way she knew I was there) I don't know, but I got a bit miffed and threw it at her back. She turned round and if looks could kill - didn't know who did it, though lol...I felt a bit guilty about it, though, even if she 'started it' I should have restrained myself.
I've wondered about this. Dunno if this or the psychological forum is the most appropriate, but since it's relevant to relationships...
Strippers and prostitutes, I would think, would develop a rather jaded, cynical, and negative view towards men. It's only natural. Not saying all, but I think most. If you feel you're constantly being used for sex day in day out you might begin to see men as lecherous, pathetic and one-dimensional, and lose respect for them. Of course many women CHOOSE this career path and some actually enjoy it or don't mind it and still don't think differently of men, but I've heard anecdotally that many prostitutes and strippers eventually get so turned off men, because they associate them with work and loveless or even pleasureless sex, that they become lesbians. Is there truth to that?
Do you think many strippers/prostitutes become resentful towards men in general?
Maybe walk out some time outside of your home to nearbly palces/bars and see how the mainstream guys act anyways. They don't need to be prostitutes to get a cynical and negative view of men. If any guy makes an approach or hits on them that night, there's a likely chance that he's a random loser who is attempting to get laid, while women out there are seen as the meat flashing with the short skirts and tight clothes, cleavages, high heels and makeup. On top of all that, they date around or search for a date in an environment where everyone is already intoxicated with alcohol withing their friend' company.
This is my observation in general.
On top of that, significant portion of guys whom I saw are generally NOT far from this behavior even when they are dating someone either. It's truly unpleasant when you see them cater to another woman and you know they are supposedly cohabiting with someone else and emulating a "marriage". You know, you don't need papers to be married. Oh yeah, you don't need to be with one person to be married either, it's so great because you can walk away easier into another "marriage" and no papers will be required. No wonder when folks talk about failed cohabitation statistics - it's all about the attitude. I can pinpoint cohabitations that will probably fail among the guys that I've observed (and generally by their fault, not knowing if the other cohabitations will fail by the other party because I only know one side). Good thing is that they didn't produce any children in it and that they don't plan any children either.
Maybe walk out some time outside of your home to nearbly palces/bars and see how the mainstream guys act anyways. They don't need to be prostitutes to get a cynical and negative view of men. If any guy makes an approach or hits on them that night, there's a likely chance that he's a random loser who is attempting to get laid, while women out there are seen as the meat flashing with the short skirts and tight clothes, cleavages, high heels and makeup. On top of all that, they date around or search for a date in an environment where everyone is already intoxicated with alcohol withing their friend' company.
This is my observation in general.
On top of that, significant portion of guys whom I saw are generally NOT far from this behavior even when they are dating someone either. It's truly unpleasant when you see them cater to another woman and you know they are supposedly cohabiting with someone else and emulating a "marriage". You know, you don't need papers to be married. Oh yeah, you don't need to be with one person to be married either, it's so great because you can walk away easier into another "marriage" and no papers will be required. No wonder when folks talk about failed cohabitation statistics - it's all about the attitude. I can pinpoint cohabitations that will probably fail among the guys that I've observed (and generally by their fault, not knowing if the other cohabitations will fail by the other party because I only know one side). Good thing is that they didn't produce any children in it and that they don't plan any children either.
The general culture-inspired goal in the west for males seems to be to have sex with as many women as possible. Marrying and starting a family is portrayed as a not quite a failure, but a willingness to settle for a less than ideal situation. The portrayed ideal lifestyle is lots and lots of sex with strangers.
Why does a women play the drunken woman coming out of the club with clothes hanging off her body game though, if she doesn't want short term sex?
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Originally Posted by Clintone
The general culture-inspired goal in the west for males seems to be to have sex with as many women as possible. Marrying and starting a family is portrayed as a not quite a failure, but a willingness to settle for a less than ideal situation. The portrayed ideal lifestyle is lots and lots of sex with strangers.
Why does a women play the drunken woman coming out of the club with clothes hanging off her body game though, if she doesn't want short term sex?
Women who get drunk might not intend to go home with a guy (at least consciously) but by putting herself in that situation she sure makes that much more likely.
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