Don't you think every men should get a PRENUP before getting married and PATERNITY TEST after having kids

[Larkspur123]

Originally Posted by nald

Here's the deal. Just make the legislation stop persecuting men for having the test done on their own and change the general attitude displayed on this topic... and you'll see that every guy will do it just out of curiosity.

What you argue is similar to ultrasound in case of pregnancy. Everyone wants to know the gender of their child even though they'll find it out anyways when the child is born. People did it this way for so many generations but new generations happen to want to know and are curious when they'll be able to know.
A big number of people even aborts their child because a child is of "undesired" gender and that's for another extensive topic itself. And just like so many people are excited to see the child on ultrasound or know the gender before birth, fathers are also curious to exercise their option to do the testing.

I also argued that paternity testing is done by court for about 400,000 children in year 2010, official data. That is close to 1 in 10 children. Add all the court expenses and you'll see that the annual expenses surpassed the costs of routine testing. In fact, dozens of tests are done during the pregnancy about much rarer occurrences of anomalies that occur in 1 out of 1,000,000 children, and are covered by insurance as well. Costs of pregnancy and childbirth are massive and are covered mostly by being "subsidized". Insurance would never cover pregnancy unless it's mandated by law. Since most pregnancy procedures are covered by law, insurance companies have to charge it from other people who won't undergo pregnancy as well and increase overall prices of insurance. Costs of childbirth are in the range of over 15,000$ for pregnancy that results with vaginal birth. Add another 10,000$ on average if C-section is included. Costs skyrocket for any further/extra pre or post-natal things included. Costs of paternity testing is negligible and, as already argued, it's lower than the court expenses that 10% of the children will be part of.

You also know very well that it's USELESS to lobby for something that you'll get shamed by everyone. People attempted to introduce mandatory paternity testing but the general hostility by various organizations stops it in tracks. In fact, they try to ban paternity testing altogether or to severely limit it, claiming that it "doesn't matter". Sure it does. We'll need lots of decades before that becomes reality, but by that time you can bet your money that children will be born out of machines in some factory anyways.

What legislation are you talking about that persecutes men for having the test done on their own, can you cite a specific law?

Why is it useless to lobby? What does it matter if you are shamed if it is something important to you? You can some of the posters here could start organizing today, if it really means that much to you.