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Old 11-20-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: War World!
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I think the root of the problem is that about 85% of the men are all chasing about 15% of the women.

I notice that most of the men I know who complain about being unable to meet women are, in fact, surrounded by women with whom they are probably compatible. The trouble is, they refuse to date any of these women, because they don't feel they aren't "hot" enough. Well, it is your right to only want to date "hot" women. But if you eliminate all but the "hottest" women from your dating pool, don't complain when you end up alone. You did it to yourself.

I agree. And I noticed that a lot of these men who say that the women aren't "hot enough" aren't setting the temperature high themselves. I used to have a friend who would chase women who were (and I QUOTE) "out of his league" in terms of looks. I don't like to call anyone ugly but he's definitely not the hottest cake in the oven and he certainly didn't have the confidence to boost. He was short, overweight, hairy, teeth weren't the best and his attitude towards women was very poor. He was always bitter and always blamed women for his flaws but it was himself. It annoys me to see guys who want "hawt" women but can't even handle themselves. The same goes for women but in this case we are talking about men.
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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I'm not convinced that the dating game gets easier for men when they get to their late 20's and early 30's. The usual mantra is that it does because at that point in time "men are established in decent careers and women's looks are on the decline." The first part may have been true in an earlier day and age, but my generation is one where women hold more college degrees and are outpacing men in terms of career advancement. Since women want a guy at least on par with them in professional success, fewer men make the cut. And while women may decline in looks, so do a lot of guys, who bald, for example. I think there is a widening gap between the men who get women, and the loser men. A smaller and smaller proportion of men are gaining the monopoly on the above-average women. It's not enough to be a decent looking guy with a decent career.

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I think men can always find someone.

I have an uncle in his 50s who's been in and out of prison his whole life. He's been out for a few months now and already has a steady girlfriend who he met in church.

I have an 18 year old cousin who's ugly, stupid AND jobless and he has a pretty girlfriend who seems to like him but something must be wrong with her mentally.

Heck, even George Zimmerman has a girlfriend.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Maryland's 6th District.
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I'm not convinced that the dating game gets easier for men when they get to their late 20's and early 30's. The usual mantra is that it does because at that point in time "men are established in decent careers and women's looks are on the decline." The first part may have been true in an earlier day and age, but my generation is one where women hold more college degrees and are outpacing men in terms of career advancement. Since women want a guy at least on par with them in professional success, fewer men make the cut. And while women may decline in looks, so do a lot of guys, who bald, for example. I think there is a widening gap between the men who get women, and the loser men. A smaller and smaller proportion of men are gaining the monopoly on the above-average women. It's not enough to be a decent looking guy with a decent career.

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I have never heard this mantra, and therefore, believe it to be fake. Or not of "my generation".

Look, dating does get easier as men age, but not because of career or declining looks or time clocks clicking down. Dating gets easier for men in their 30s because by that age most men know what they want in life, and have learned the lessons of what not to do from their 20s. Like believing in these stupid memes and "rules".

Basically, men finally grow-up and mature in their 30s.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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The usual mantra is that it does because at that point in time "men are established in decent careers and women's looks are on the decline."

This is only a mantra among PUAs, most of whom are virgins with social disabilities, who do not know any actual women.

I don't mean to be harsh, and many of those guys are good people and will make someone a good husband someday. But, when they talk about dating, they really don't have a clue about what real people do.

Men who are socially normal find women their own age the most attractive, at any age. Sure, when you are 18, no matter what your gender people of 26 look super old to you. But when you are 26, people who are 18 look like kids. And when you are 35, people of 26 look like kids. So the whole age/looks part of the theory is ridiculous.

As for ease of dating, it's probably the other way around. Women usually prefer to select a life mate before she and he are established in their careers. So by the time you get to your late 20s, a lot of women are taken. But there are still several billion available.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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Heck, even George Zimmerman has a girlfriend.
Inorite? Clearly it's not about looks or personal charm.

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Dating gets easier for men in their 30s because by that age most men know what they want in life, and have learned the lessons of what not to do from their 20s. Like believing in these stupid memes and "rules".

Basically, men finally grow-up and mature in their 30s.
Good point. There's a lot of individual variation, but in general women tend to mature emotionally much earlier, and when men catch up they become way more sexy and desireable .
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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Heck, even George Zimmerman has a girlfriend.
No shet. If George Zimmerman can get an attractive woman I bet I could get a date with Jessica Alba or Rihanna!
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: southern california
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i am fit financially secure good ballroom dancer and 65, the line forms on the right. never thought i would be this much in demand sure was not when i was 20 and cute. perhaps its bek all my rivals are in a hospital bed or dead?
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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No shet. If George Zimmerman can get an attractive woman I bet I could get a date with Jessica Alba or Rihanna!
Except both Ms. Alba and Ms. Rihanna are much more than just attractive.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: The Puget Sound
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Heck, even George Zimmerman has a girlfriend.
Fame will do that to you.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:26 PM
 
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It definitely has the potential to be easier for men. You still have to make the effort to look good, stay fit, and be successful in your finances & career. It doesn't get easier automatically if that's what you're thinking.

Whereas with women, it's a slow, irreversible decline after their early to mid 20's. Their peak potential is during ages 18-25. Men's peak potential is during ages 33-45. The key word is potential -- you still have to put the effort in.
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