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Old 04-16-2014, 11:00 PM
 
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See, freemkt, no one can really say what you have or have not done. Whether it is "enough" or if there are still options out there for you. Whether you could live more frugally to afford community college. Whether you spend "too much" on internet that you could spend on more long term benefits. No one really knows but you. But I CAN say that if I were free to date, I would not date you. You always have some ready excuse for why you HAVE to suck. How sucking is not your fault. I never used the word ambition. I used the word drive. You have already written off ALL of your options as one and done. THAT is lacking in drive. Drive continues to pick up stones to see what is underneath.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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In NYC, I don't think having a car is that prevalent.

In my experience - I have lived in each of the outer boroughs - having a car is the norm for those living in the outer boroughs, although I've known a few people who worked in Manhattan and lived without cars in close-in parts of Brooklyn.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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Care to share your source of info? What do you consider poor? My kids go to school with a kids from families where both mom and dad are lower wage earners. What you say doesn't seem reflective of real life.

At the time I didn't think to write anything down (e.g. links or quotes) but that's the gist of my readings. It's well known that low-income men have particularly low marriage rates; historically income/job/career standards have been informally imposed on men, and men who fail to meet these standards have been considered 'unmarriageable".
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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Honestly, with your negative attitude, it's hardly surprising you haven't done well as far as work goes.

Dunno about that, there are SOME things I'm very good at.

Do you expect people with sucky jobs and sucky lives to have positive attitudes>
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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Dunno about that, there are SOME things I'm very good at.

Do you expect people with sucky jobs and sucky lives to have positive attitudes>
Many people with sucky lives have a positive attitude. I have personally known hundreds of people with cancer or their kids have cancer and they maintain their joy and positivity despite the setbacks and pain and chemo and utter heartbreak. Are you really that naive that you believe everyone else's life is wonderful all the time, that everyone loves their job, and that no-one else has suffering of some description?

I am of the firm belief we choose to be happy or content and conversely we choose to be negative and miserable.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:05 AM
 
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Many people with sucky lives have a positive attitude. I have personally known hundreds of people with cancer or their kids have cancer and they maintain their joy and positivity despite the setbacks and pain and chemo and utter heartbreak. Are you really that naive that you believe everyone else's life is wonderful all the time, that everyone loves their job, and that no-one else has suffering of some description?

I am of the firm belief we choose to be happy or content and conversely we choose to be negative and miserable.
I agree that we influence those things, but I think some people are more naturally positive and upbeat, some are less so, and some are naturally pessimistic. The thing is, people who are naturally more pessimistic are the ones who can benefit the most from working on their attitude and being more positive.

I agree that almost everyone can get out of the negative and miserable category. They have to be willing to work for it, though.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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I agree that we influence those things, but I think some people are more naturally positive and upbeat, some are less so, and some are naturally pessimistic. The thing is, people who are naturally more pessimistic are the ones who can benefit the most from working on their attitude and being more positive.

I agree that almost everyone can get out of the negative and miserable category. They have to be willing to work for it, though.
I speak as someone who has struggled with self esteem and negativity for many years. It took me a long time to decide that I needed to change my self speak and monitor my thoughts closely or I would go through life never finding that inner peace that I sought. Now I have a wonderful life and I'm so much happier knowing that I do have power and control over myself and the direction my life is going. I will never be the epitome of positivity but I am more than pleased with my progress thus far and I have come to accept that it's ok to just be the best me I can.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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Many people with sucky lives have a positive attitude. I have personally known hundreds of people with cancer or their kids have cancer and they maintain their joy and positivity despite the setbacks and pain and chemo and utter heartbreak. Are you really that naive that you believe everyone else's life is wonderful all the time, that everyone loves their job, and that no-one else has suffering of some description?

I am of the firm belief we choose to be happy or content and conversely we choose to be negative and miserable.

Sure, but I don't know how to be happy when I have PTSD because I was raised by volatile druggies and drunks...and because I live on a shoestring, I'm stuck renting a room from an angry volatile drunk who hardly ever gets out of the house, because he lost his license (upteenth DUI) and can't drive.

On days I work, I leave the house early before he wakes up and don't come home until he's in bed; on days I don't work I hole up in my room all day. Who can be happy living that way?
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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Dunno about that, there are SOME things I'm very good at.

Do you expect people with sucky jobs and sucky lives to have positive attitudes>

It is very hard to be happy when you know you not working towards anything .Maybe it's a guy thing - or an anybody thing - that we want and almost need to make a fulfilling, meaningful contribution to our world. I would say though that a career is much different and more fulfilling than a job.

My job kinda of defines who i am so it not so easy being happy.
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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Sure, but I don't know how to be happy when I have PTSD because I was raised by volatile druggies and drunks...and because I live on a shoestring, I'm stuck renting a room from an angry volatile drunk who hardly ever gets out of the house, because he lost his license (upteenth DUI) and can't drive.

On days I work, I leave the house early before he wakes up and don't come home until he's in bed; on days I don't work I hole up in my room all day. Who can be happy living that way?
You have a job, find another room to rent. You spend enough time on this forum to warrant getting a second job.
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