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I think a lot of women who go to college expect men to make a lot of $ whether they make any $ or not.
I think all of the guys who don't make anything and have wives/GFs/kids, they mate from a pool of women with less education. I think this forum is mostly comprised of college educated women.
I wouldn't say that. I'd say that people mate people with similar levels of education. There are a heck of a lot of college-educated men and women who don't make much money these days. A college educated school teacher in Mississippi is going to marry a college educated librarian in Mississippi...and neither makes much money.
....it isn't so much as what he makes as how he spends it. When I was married, my ex made a decent salary when he was working. But he was very stingy with me and very generous for himself. ...
So for me, I could be married to a millionaire. If he was an Ebenezer Scrooge, it wouldn't make a difference in how much money he earned.
This is a useful data-point for reflection. Today, few women are interested in a wealthy man purely for the status. To the extent that there's interest in wealth, that interest concerns the spending of money; or in more considerate and mature terms, the appropriate usage of money to maintain a comfortable lifestyle. A wealthy man who voluntarily lives at the poverty-level so that he could deposit $30,000 every month with Fidelity Investments, isn't going to be prime dating material, so long as we view the subject in purely material terms. A profligate and debauched spender would presumably not be appealing either, because such a lifestyle is unstable and bodes ill for the proverbial long-term.
My own case was definitely leaning towards what Minervah (by the way, why the "h" at the end of "Minerva"?) described. Though my ex left over disagreement about having children, she did cite my parsimony and the resulting artificially constrained life as one cause that prompted her to seek alternatives.
Middle-class and upper-middle-class people tend to view money as a means toward and end; as something with which to buy comfort, convenience, pleasures, maybe status. Money buys stuff. It buys a vacation-house, first-class airfare tickets, domestic-help, top-notch health care. Money isn't viewed as an end in itself, or as a means of wielding influence, of shaping society and affecting the political discourse. Of course savings are laudable to a point, as is thrift. But the purpose of thrift is to build a hedge against a rainy day, and not to amass a fortune.
The lesson is that overall world-view towards money is more important than raw salary or assets. What's appealing and what denotes compatibility can't be reduced to a dollar figure. It ultimately depends on personality and values, and concerns the money itself, only in so far as some amount of earning-power is a surrogate for success and the supposed character-traits that it entails.
There were already men who fessed up to voting for the 150K option in this poll. To think that this poll is at all accurate would be erroneous.
Then why comment? Listen, one of the things that women look for in a man is money. Different women have different standards. To deny this flies in the face of reality. Women, for time immemorial have looked to men as resource providers, and typically want to marry "up" the economic ladder. And despite 50 years of feminist brainwashing, this is still the case.
But to be fair, a lot of men now also expect a female to pull her weight economically in a relationship, which evens the score a bit.
Then why comment? Listen, one of the things that women look for in a man is money. Different women have different standards. To deny this flies in the face of reality. Women, for time immemorial have looked to men as resource providers, and typically want to marry "up" the economic ladder. And despite 50 years of feminist brainwashing, this is still the case.
But to be fair, a lot of men now also expect a female to pull her weight economically in a relationship, which evens the score a bit.
Why comment? To point out that getting upset because it seems like women are demanding men to make more than 150K is silly since I would say that most of the "women" that voted for that option are men.
Most women don't look for money. There is a difference between money and security. Many women want security. They want someone responsible. They want to know that their children won't starve. Most women don't look to land the richest guy around.
Why comment? To point out that getting upset because it seems like women are demanding men to make more than 150K is silly since I would say that most of the "women" that voted for that option are men.
Most women don't look for money. There is a difference between money and security. Many women want security. They want someone responsible. They want to know that their children won't starve. Most women don't look to land the richest guy around.
True no woman wants a guy that works 7 days a week and makes no time for her and the kids.
Why comment? To point out that getting upset because it seems like women are demanding men to make more than 150K is silly since I would say that most of the "women" that voted for that option are men.
Most women don't look for money. There is a difference between money and security. Many women want security. They want someone responsible. They want to know that their children won't starve. Most women don't look to land the richest guy around.
It took you only 4 sentences to completely invalidate what you said in the first sentence.
Impressive.
So, in other words, women don't look for money.....except that they do.
It took you only 4 sentences to completely invalidate what you said in the first sentence.
Impressive.
So, in other words, women don't look for money.....except that they do.
You don't understand the difference between looking for money vs looking for security?
Security = a character guy you can rely on to consistently help to provide ... this may not have anything to do with how much he makes.
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