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Yeah I'm sure that happens a lot. You wouldn't have a bridge to sell me would you....
It does happen a lot. You wouldn't know, because you seem to spend too much time tuned into the wrong channel. But as someone posted earlier, most divorce cases don't make it to a trial; the parties involved settle everything themselves. Other times, women just want to get out, get it over with, and move on, as some of our own members here have done. But it must be not uncommon for men to take women to the cleaners, too. You can't imagine how many MEN have warned me to watch out for men on the make, who might try to get with me just because I own my own place. It seems like a strange thing, as if it's that easy to manipulate women into falling for some schmo. I don't get that. But it's weird how much of a danger MEN think that is! I've never heard a woman express that concern.
It does happen a lot. You wouldn't know, because you seem to spend too much time tuned into the wrong channel. But as someone posted earlier, most divorce cases don't make it to a trial.
Most women are married to a guy that makes more, so unless the wife was the saver and the guy was the spender, it isn't really possible for that scenario to be that common.
I posted this link on a thread that got vanished a week or so ago. Read the article if you haven't already; it's eye-opening! One of the men in the article told a story about when his daughter told him she'd been raped. His response was to threaten to disown her if she pressed charges.
What can I say, other than clearly these are princes among men. Fortunately, I don't believe they are anything other than a "vocal minority." I'd be truly depressed if I thought most men were like that, but we know that's not truth, thankfully.
Just like not all feminists are the same not all MGTOW men are the same.
Most women are married to a guy that makes more, so unless the wife was the saver and the guy was the spender, it isn't really possible for that scenario to be that common.
Which scenario? Divorce cases not going to trial? Most don't.
Which scenario? Divorce cases not going to trial? Most don't.
Women being taken to the cleaners. They are normally married to a guy that makes more and they normally get the kids, so your scenario, while possible, isn't going to be that common.
So why don't you just say it? "There aren't enough good-looking women." It's a common complaint around here.
That's where I came up with the "invisible women" comment. I speculate that there are plenty of women who are not crazy, are financially responsible, not drug users, but they're not attractive enough for the so-called "Quality man," and thus, they are "invisible."
Personally, I actually don't go after women based on looks. I really don't do cold approaches and usually meet women through work, school, or friends.
I also seem to find a wide variety of women attractive. For me, personality matters A LOT and has made some pretty good looking women ugly to me and visa versa.
So, yes, I have difficulty finding single women of good character. Nothing to do with looks.
Women being taken to the cleaners. They are normally married to a guy that makes more and they normally get the kids, so your scenario, while possible, isn't going to be that common.
Not as common, but it still happens. It happened to a cousin of mine. Anyway, the point is that this big divorce cleanout fear some men have only represents a minority of divorce cases. And figured into marriages as a whole, including successful ones, it's a small minority of marriages that end acrimoniously with men being taken to the cleaners. Then, if you look at those cases and subtract the ones where the men deserved to be taken to the cleaners (domestic violence, for example, or maybe some kind of very egregious cheating combined with other emotional abuse of the wife, or something), then as a percent of all marriages, it's small enough to not be a concern at all.
Much ado about nothing. It's just a bogeyman maladjusted men conjure up. If you don't want to be taken to the cleaners, don't be a major jerk, and get a good lawyer.
Just like not all feminists are the same not all MGTOW men are the same.
I don't doubt that there are men who have concerns and complaints relating to current laws, policies and so forth. And, these men are not all the type who'd tell their daughter that they'd disown her if she pressed charges against her rapist.
But when we look up "MGTOW" on Google, we get the MGTOW.com site, and other sites that seem to be filled with griping, misogynist, bitter men who would probably brag about disowning a daughter who'd pressed charges against her rapist.
This is the general consensus of MGTOW. Those who hold this view of MGTOWs are given plenty of reason to view them that way, due to the many MGTOW sites that come up first in a Google search.
From RationalWiki's assessment of MGTOW:
"Led by the delusion that a modern day man can only choose between two extremely one dimensional caricatures they fail at basic co-ed social interaction (led on by no shortage of greasy literature and PUA trolls) and decide that they cannot win in the modern world and should retire to their basements with porn and xbox.
The "going their own way" part is often framed not just as self-preservation, but as some kind of "strike" that is supposed to punish women. Apparently in the worldview of some (if not most) MGTOWers, women are some kind of succubi-like creatures, seducing men with their feminine wiles in order to exploit them and unable to live support themselves without men to exploit. (It's worth mentioning that there's a strong whiff of overt misogyny wafting around many in the movement.)"
Actually that whole page is pretty much spot-on; that's how these guys come off most of the time!
If you have some evidence of a strong, vocal, organized group of MGTOW guys that don't sadly fall into this category of loserism and misogyny, bring it on! Show us the links to their websites and message boards! I'd love to know that they're out there.
But from what I see, the name or classification of "MGTOW" seems to be mainly populated with the types of guys as described by rationalwiki. Blame Google, not me (or rationalwiki) if we judge MGTOW by what we see coming up first in search engines.
So, yes, I have difficulty finding single women of good character. Nothing to do with looks.
So it is your claim that women, on average, tend to have a lower or bad character compared to men, on average?
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Fortunately, I don't believe they are anything other than a "vocal minority." I'd be truly depressed if I thought most men were like that, but we know that's not truth, thankfully.
Actually that whole page is pretty much spot-on; that's how these guys come off most of the time! 