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In this day and age, we see all kinds of stories about men being rejected for all sorts of superfluous reasons, often by women who in years past would have at least considered the man. Women clearly have the upper hand in the legal system, and in the general dating market. Society is clearly becoming more liberal, and tilting its preferences toward women.
Will many men simply opt out of the dating/marriage going forward in the near term, say, five to ten years?
Opt out? Nah. We like sex too much so we'll put up with women's crap just to get some. It is what it is.
What I do worry about, culturally speaking, is that we're raising a generation of men who will grow up with a fundamental distrust and lack of respect for women. I think there are too many inaccurate depictions of women out there that will wind up making young men bitter and thinking, "what's the point?"
Opt out? Nah. We like sex too much so we'll put up with women's crap just to get some. It is what it is.
What I do worry about, culturally speaking, is that we're raising a generation of men who will grow up with a fundamental distrust and lack of respect for women. I think there are too many inaccurate depictions of women out there that will wind up making young men bitter and thinking, "what's the point?"
Isnt that just valid cost/benefit analysis on behalf of the men? Japan had a huge feminist movement and look at it now.
Look women only "have the upper hand" due to social conditoning and laws. A few third wave feminist laws which really suck...
A) Married women who get pregnant from other men while married can still hit up the husband for money. He is legally responsible.
B) Domestic abuse: about half of women initiate domestic violence, but most men are the ones getting arrested.
C) Common law marriages in some states: youre not married why should you be treated as such?
D) Divorce: Alimony recipients are still 97% female. Most children are given to the women rather than 50/50 custody. Women can also sometimes claim property acquired before marriage by adding a few trivalties and upgrades (ie getting a 400k house split and sold after doing a kitchen upgrade and claiming the house is joint property. Ive seen it happen).
E) rape hysteria on college campuses: innocent till proven guilty nonsense without due process of law. The 25% statistic is proven to be a lie.
F)Total lack of say of a man in the conception of his child. What isnt in his control however is mandatory child support of a child he may not have wanted due to a woman lying about their birth control status.
Im a firm believer that NAWALT. However, the majority of Americans are greedy POS, and now the laws favor women and allow them to act like greedy POS if they want to. As such men will opt out of reproduction and marriage. Which IMO is a good thing given our current global population and potential shortages of water, jobs, and housing in the future.
Isnt that just valid cost/benefit analysis on behalf of the men? Japan had a huge feminist movement and look at it now.
Look women only "have the upper hand" due to social conditoning and laws. A few third wave feminist laws which really suck...
A) Married women who get pregnant from other men while married can still hit up the husband for money. He is legally responsible.
B) Domestic abuse: about half of women initiate domestic violence, but most men are the ones getting arrested.
C) Common law marriages in some states: youre not married why should you be treated as such?
D) Divorce: Alimony recipients are still 97% female. Most children are given to the women rather than 50/50 custody. Women can also sometimes claim property acquired before marriage by adding a few trivalties and upgrades (ie getting a 400k house split and sold after doing a kitchen upgrade and claiming the house is joint property. Ive seen it happen).
E) rape hysteria on college campuses: innocent till proven guilty nonsense without due process of law. The 25% statistic is proven to be a lie.
F)Total lack of say of a man in the conception of his child. What isnt in his control however is mandatory child support of a child he may not have wanted due to a woman lying about their birth control status.
Im a firm believer that NAWALT. However, the majority of Americans are greedy POS, and now the laws favor women and allow them to act like greedy POS if they want to. As such men will opt out of reproduction and marriage. Which IMO is a good thing given our current global population and potential shortages of water, jobs, and housing in the future.
Isnt that just valid cost/benefit analysis on behalf of the men? Japan had a huge feminist movement and look at it now.
Look women only "have the upper hand" due to social conditoning and laws. A few third wave feminist laws which really suck...
A) Married women who get pregnant from other men while married can still hit up the husband for money. He is legally responsible.
B) Domestic abuse: about half of women initiate domestic violence, but most men are the ones getting arrested.
C) Common law marriages in some states: youre not married why should you be treated as such?
D) Divorce: Alimony recipients are still 97% female. Most children are given to the women rather than 50/50 custody. Women can also sometimes claim property acquired before marriage by adding a few trivalties and upgrades (ie getting a 400k house split and sold after doing a kitchen upgrade and claiming the house is joint property. Ive seen it happen).
E) rape hysteria on college campuses: innocent till proven guilty nonsense without due process of law. The 25% statistic is proven to be a lie.
F)Total lack of say of a man in the conception of his child. What isnt in his control however is mandatory child support of a child he may not have wanted due to a woman lying about their birth control status.
Im a firm believer that NAWALT. However, the majority of Americans are greedy POS, and now the laws favor women and allow them to act like greedy POS if they want to. As such men will opt out of reproduction and marriage. Which IMO is a good thing given our current global population and potential shortages of water, jobs, and housing in the future.
I'm glad you are here. I hope others speak up, too.
As you just saw, by their fruits ye shall know them. (Matt. 7:16)
Now...amazingly bitter, distrustful and prone to hysteria, on the other hand...
Those things arent something Id generally proclaim to the world in public, but they do affect my behavior. Nonetheless, its factual knowledge which most men should probably know when dating.
I know when a women says shes on the pill for example that shes possibly lying. Ive caught 2 ex gfs lying about it previously and called them out on it. I was also very careful in college not to "ruffle any womans feathers the wrong way" due to rape hysteria. Moreover, Im well aware of divorce and see very little positives in signing a government contract which could have an angry ex seize my assets for years or make me pay for children that arent mine. I also generally go out of my way to avoid any women that may seem the slightest bit unstable. Because even defending yourself can land you in prison and shut you out of professional employment for life. Not to mention Ive seen totally false abuse claims filed. One friend had to spend 15k on lawyers last year to get out of a fake assault case from a woman who cut her hand breaking into his house when he wasnt even home.
All this knowledge is hardly hurtful. Id like to change some laws but I cant beyond basic voting. So I date carefully when I can sometimes, but for the most part GMOW.
Yes, many men will "opt out"- and the women will absolutely weep.
Yep, Men will grow tired of women wanting everything, and bringing nothing to a relationship but BS and past drama. That gets old fast. We will settle for her quirky less judgmental friend, that expects little and appreciates everything extra she gets. She's the keeper. Then there's the.. sorry gotta go, popcorn's cooking!
I'm still not understanding. If the movement is called Men Going Their Own Way - and we all know what it stands for - then why do you believe that it didn't always stand for what it stands for? You are saying that your friends didn't consider themselves Men Going Their Own Way - then why do you think that their beliefs have anything to do with the movement titled Men Going Their Own Way?
You are trying to fit everything and everyone in to one small box when it isn't that at all.
I already explained this all to you in the previous posting.
The "orginal" statement of intent was titled "men need to go their own way" it did not exist as a movement in its inception. Their was no orginzarion trying to peddle anything or backing it's message. It was just a statement towards men that certain things should not be compromised just for someone else.
It went on and gained popularity due to radical feminism gaining ground in the media and in general. From their "somewhere" over time it took on what the you or anyone else looking for will find today - a total anti movment dedicated to countering exteme/radical feminism
I would assume they feel this way (the people I associate with) because they identify and believe in that orginal statement, not in any one spefic following of "men going their own way" that has attempted to organize their interpatiations as "the" movement.
Prehapes it is just time to stop using the term for those who do not follow the radical and fanatic "he man women hater" variety and just call them "men's rights"
It's pretty apparent the original intent has been lost and turned in to something that denotes hostility and negativity to the general population looking for its meaning as it exist now.
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