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Old 04-12-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Polynesia
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OP, your sister should simply be open to people and things that align with her values and goals and she should reject what doesn't.

Not all men visit prostitutes and strip clubs so I think she is looking for love in the wrong places.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Most couples I know even married ones met in a bar/club/pub so that's not the issue in my opinion. I don't understand why people think it's only a lesser calibre or class of people that frequent them? And why people tend to stereotype that scene with people that's predominantly looking for only hook ups and not love/relationship etc
I met my husband in a bar. But it was a friendly bar. The ones in this scenario aren't.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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I met my husband in a bar. But it was a friendly bar. The ones in this scenario aren't.
Oh sorry for not being clearer my love that wasn't aimed at you or any other poster in particular so apologise if it came across that way, but in general I've seen quite a few people's negative reaction when bars are mentioned and it just got my curiosity going a bit
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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Oh sorry for not being clearer my love that wasn't aimed at you or any other poster in particular so apologise if it came across that way, but in general I've seen quite a few people's negative reaction when bars are mentioned and it just got my curiosity going a bit
No, I didn't take it any kind of way. I know the kind of folks you are talking about, that met their spouses in church or somewhere else less "eeevell".
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Polynesia
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This is sort of on topic but just asking for clarification on this please as I don't understand why

Most couples I know even married ones met in a bar/club/pub so that's not the issue in my opinion. I don't understand why people think it's only a lesser calibre or class of people that frequent them? And why people tend to stereotype that scene with people that's predominantly looking for only hook ups and not love/relationship etc

It's just another venue and a great way to meet and socialise with people and the ironic thing is that once you've met someone regardless of where you meet them for quite a few people the chances are quite highthat you'll end up going out for drinks in a bar on a date! LOL.

Thank you in advanced for whom ever can clarify and for your time
I think it's different in London. In the US, bars are primarily depressing places filled with lonely sad people.

That's my perception anyway. The few times that I ever entered a bar in the US, I felt like a piece of meat with drunken vultures circling around me. Not fun and not enjoyable.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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This is sort of on topic but just asking for clarification on this please as I don't understand why

Most couples I know even married ones met in a bar/club/pub so that's not the issue in my opinion. I don't understand why people think it's only a lesser calibre or class of people that frequent them? And why people tend to stereotype that scene with people that's predominantly looking for only hook ups and not love/relationship etc

It's just another venue and a great way to meet and socialise with people and the ironic thing is that once you've met someone regardless of where you meet them for quite a few people the chances are quite highthat you'll end up going out for drinks in a bar on a date! LOL.

Thank you in advanced for whom ever can clarify and for your time
It's definitely not like London.

In these towns, where there is very little economic vitality or variety, the bars are just holes in the wall designed to draw money out of the guys' pockets.

They aren't like friendly neighborhood pubs, where you may see all types of people stopping in to see what's what and have a good time. They're usually just a place to get drunk and forget about the hard work of the day. It's really flat out NOT safe for women.

There was a book about this kind of scene a few years ago called Neon Wasteland. It's basically just a lifestyle that offers few options and not much hope.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I'm not familiar with those types of bars, but obviously they exist.

Please tell me the towns so I can never move there.
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Old 04-12-2017, 11:58 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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No, I didn't take it any kind of way. I know the kind of folks you are talking about, that met their spouses in church or somewhere else less "eeevell".
Hahahaha!!!! LOVE IT!! At least you've got the required sense of humour for the bar scene

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I think it's different in London. In the US, bars are primarily depressing places filled with lonely sad people.

That's my perception anyway. The few times that I ever entered a bar in the US, I felt like a piece of meat with drunken vultures circling around me. Not fun and not enjoyable.
That was the main reason of my asking the cultural differences and opinions, I've asked before on here but never actually had the clarification

Yes here it's a god send and BRILLIANT!!! You have the " dives " but even they're filled with characters and you can have a laugh.

Thank you for your answer
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I'm not familiar with those types of bars, but obviously they exist.

Please tell me the towns so I can never move there.
I would like to know the town in the OP as well.

The book I read interviewed women who lived in towns between Buffalo and Syracuse, NY. I know there are a lot of towns out west that have this dynamic, where oil-related jobs have drawn men from all over the country to scrubby burghs with little to offer in the way of entertainment.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I'd stop going to those bars or bars in general as a place to meet men. Find a new place to hang out: a coffee shop, a book store, a park, a gym, etc.
This is a no-brainer. Bars =/= a "dating scene". Are there any other towns around where the prospects are better, OP? She may have to branch out to socialize, or else accept that her location isn't conducive to that, and bide her time until she can move.

Where do you live, OP? Could she come visit you on weekends and holidays, and socialize in your burg?
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