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Old 06-02-2013, 05:31 AM
 
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but I did read the article mentioned in the very first post and it gets several things wrong. First, it describes women as the bidders and men as the prize. But we know that men can be the bidders too. Just as really attractive women can hold out for a great guy, really attractive men can do the same. And by attractive, I don't just mean in terms of looks. Lets say you have a guy who spent his 20s pursuing higher education and training in lucrative fields like law, medicine, or investment banking. He doesn't have to settle. He can hold out for someone truly great. And unlike women, his age won't be held against him. He can be his 40s and pursue younger women whereas a woman in her 40s, even if she's really attractive, won't appeal to men who want to have kids. Second, the bidder model the article puts forth doesn't discuss the impact being a high bidder has on a woman's reputation. If you're a man over 35 who's never been married, people will think something's wrong with you. But the same is true for a woman over 35 who's never been married. Why is she still single? Have all the other men rejected her? Or are her so standards so high that no one can live up to them?

In economics, you'll hear the word shortage a lot. For example, businesses will say there's a shortage of IT workers or hospitals will say there's a nursing shortage. But in both cases, it's simply because the employer doesn't want to pay the market rate. In other words, they don't want to adjust their standards to fit the marketplace. By the same token, women who complain about the shortage of good men have only themselves to blame. It's not that there's a shortage. It's that your standards are too high. That brings us to the notion of settling. But far too many people (men and women) are afraid to settle. I'm in my late 30s and I know that it's unrealistic for me to have the same standards I had back when I was in my 20s. I can't hold out for a woman who's never been married, doesn't have kids, and is still fit and trim. I have to be willing to make concessions or else just stay single. But one thing you'll never me say is "why are all the good women taken?" Instead, I just deal with what's out there and accept that this is as good as it gets. Complaining about the kind of single women that are out there serves no purpose.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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They are the fools who spent a lot of time masturbating to internet porn loosing the best sex years of their lives. I bet some of them are pushing 30 and thinking I wish I would have settled with that gal who smiled at me 7 years ago as it may not have happened since.
I'll bet you are/were one of them. Your posts cover the three n's: nasty, negative, and nonsensical.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I'll bet you are/were one of them. Your posts cover the three n's: nasty, negative, and nonsensical.
Yeah, but he's amusing. I feel sorry for whatever girls have caught his eye. But damn he's funny. He's got warning bells going off up the wazoo for things women should avoid; he's almost a caricature of an archetype. I appreciate his honesty, where I'd thought people were exaggerating about this type of thing, he's doing his darndest to prove that he is real.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Yeah, but he's amusing. I feel sorry for whatever girls have caught his eye. But damn he's funny. He's got warning bells going off up the wazoo for things women should avoid; he's almost a caricature of an archetype. I appreciate his honesty, where I'd thought people were exaggerating about this type of thing, he's doing his darndest to prove that he is real.
Highlife2 is funny. But scary too. Lol
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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VERY TRUE...I still think about some of my old teachers from middle school and high school, WISHING I could got home with them for a tutor or something. Its a big reason why the MILF porn catagory is growning faster than the Teen catagory, I never liked the young girl porn stuff at all and never understood dudes who did, but been a Milf\Mature fan since 1997.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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I haven't read through this entire thread, but I did read the article mentioned in the very first post and it gets several things wrong. First, it describes women as the bidders and men as the prize. But we know that men can be the bidders too. Just as really attractive women can hold out for a great guy, really attractive men can do the same. And by attractive, I don't just mean in terms of looks. Lets say you have a guy who spent his 20s pursuing higher education and training in lucrative fields like law, medicine, or investment banking. He doesn't have to settle. He can hold out for someone truly great. And unlike women, his age won't be held against him. He can be his 40s and pursue younger women whereas a woman in her 40s, even if she's really attractive, won't appeal to men who want to have kids. Second, the bidder model the article puts forth doesn't discuss the impact being a high bidder has on a woman's reputation. If you're a man over 35 who's never been married, people will think something's wrong with you. But the same is true for a woman over 35 who's never been married. Why is she still single? Have all the other men rejected her? Or are her so standards so high that no one can live up to them?

In economics, you'll hear the word shortage a lot. For example, businesses will say there's a shortage of IT workers or hospitals will say there's a nursing shortage. But in both cases, it's simply because the employer doesn't want to pay the market rate. In other words, they don't want to adjust their standards to fit the marketplace. By the same token, women who complain about the shortage of good men have only themselves to blame. It's not that there's a shortage. It's that your standards are too high. That brings us to the notion of settling. But far too many people (men and women) are afraid to settle. I'm in my late 30s and I know that it's unrealistic for me to have the same standards I had back when I was in my 20s. I can't hold out for a woman who's never been married, doesn't have kids, and is still fit and trim. I have to be willing to make concessions or else just stay single. But one thing you'll never me say is "why are all the good women taken?" Instead, I just deal with what's out there and accept that this is as good as it gets. Complaining about the kind of single women that are out there serves no purpose.
Best posts I read so far and I agree with you. Im going through the same and I never ask where are the good women. I too dont want women with kids, or women with mental healt issues or women with debts she cant never pay off, or divorced. Butvyou know it is what it is, its either stay single and hold out for a ripe shallow naiev twenty something or settle for a thirty something. I too had to make concessions and re adjust what I want. Hell Im not even asking for much.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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A lot of guys I know that were in these situations were more worried about where they were going to live and how they were going to pay bills rather than their kids. The kids were secondary to survival.
The majority of women make less than the husband especially in families with children. I am sure the women are worried about survival too, but almost all women ask for custody. I guess women value the children and men value the money. SAD!
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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I'm in my late 30s and I know that it's unrealistic for me to have the same standards I had back when I was in my 20s. I can't hold out for a woman who's never been married, doesn't have kids, and is still fit and trim.
You can travel to Brazil? Or Colombia or plenty of other nations.

The world is "smaller" now anyways. It's not like we travel at the same speed of George Washington who traveled at speeds no faster than Ceaser of ancient Rome. Plus, we have internet and skype and cellphones.

If this Evacuated Tube Transport thing ever gets created in my lifetime travel from one country to the next won't take all that long. I think it will take 45 minutes to travel the world. Something like that. Anyways, the distance to Mexico or Argentina would seem far smaller, and that would making dating between different nationalities far easier.
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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The majority of women make less than the husband especially in families with children. I am sure the women are worried about survival too, but almost all women ask for custody. I guess women value the children and men value the money. SAD!
Why is it sad?

If its so sad why do people work so hard for money yet abortion is legal, not saying I agree with abortion im just saying a lot of people working jobs exchanging time for money yet you claim its sad?
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:14 PM
 
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I'll bet you are/were one of them. Your posts cover the three n's: nasty, negative, and nonsensical.
I am not one, I lowered my bar until I got women that were interested. Its really not rocket science.
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