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Meh, the whole nice guy trope has been beaten like a dead horse (talk about cliches) I myself, may be called a "nice guy", you might meet a woman, she may say you're a nice guy, but...meaning they're not interested. On the flipside, they may say you're a nice guy, but...I'd like to **** your brains out, then I'm interested! On the flipside of that, I'm a nice guy, but I am a bad boy where it counts, and I might be the one ****ing your brains out! There's a cliche nice guys might not be always nice guys, be careful for what you wish for, you've been warned!
Oh brother, the whole nice guy thing again. It's in every forum every few pages , yawn, yawn , yawn.
l should print this up , it'd be much easier. But whens the last time all you nice guy sorry souls saw even in a forum , any women, saying how great her AH new bf is ?
What's the first word they ever use talking about someone they're really exited about- "he's really nice" or something to that effect, and then comes the long list of all the great things about him and that he does.
Whens the last time you ever heard of a happy 40yrs marriage to an AH or your bad boy bs ?
Ahhhh, they're usually getting divorced long long ago.
l dunno , l give up.
lt'll still be in every second thread all over the internet in 100 yrs time l think. l just feel sympathy for all the sorry souls out there with all these silly ideas that can't even "see" the other 100s of threads saying the exact opposite - "by women "
l think a lot of struggling or long term single guys out there , like a lot of the women to actually - are that way bc they just have these weird unbend-able ideas or ways about them and a just total lack of the simple understandings in how things really work.
Oh brother, the whole nice guy thing again. It's in every forum every few pages , yawn, yawn , yawn.
l should print this up , it'd be much easier. But whens the last time all you nice guy sorry souls saw even in a forum , any women, saying how great her AH new bf is ?
What's the first word they ever use talking about someone they're really exited about- "he's really nice" or something to that effect, and then comes the long list of all the great things about him and that he does.
Whens the last time you ever heard of a happy 40yrs marriage to an AH or your bad boy bs ?
Ahhhh, they're usually getting divorced long long ago.
l dunno , l give up.
lt'll still be in every second thread all over the internet in 100 yrs time l think. l just feel sympathy for all the sorry souls out there with all these silly ideas that can't even "see" the other 100s of threads saying the exact opposite - "by women "
l think a lot of struggling or long term single guys out there , like a lot of the women to actually - are that way bc they just have these weird unbend-able ideas or ways about them and a just total lack of the simple understandings in how things really work.
I think the whole “nice guy” notion is purely a youthful man’s thing. As one grows and matures, you learn that the “right” woman will accept one for who they are, “nice guy”, or not, the attraction remains constant.
Young women generally represent good guy in terms of dating to mean ... a guy who won't cheat or play them, or just use them for action, or make them feel like there's a dozen other women that he could be with.
Young men OTOH think of good guy to mean just that as well ... that they hold any given woman in a higher regard than another guy and won't cheat.
In terms of being a 'good person', that is a loose term and I'd venture to guess just about 99% of people think they are good people despite what others may think (in an out for yourself sense, not in a mass murderer sense). Sometimes despite what MANY other people think.
Regardless, it's more about finding a match in that regard and I have seen no real evidence that women are better people than men in that regard either. So, there's no reason a woman who is not particularly selfless person would/should want a man who is a selfless person.
most peeple would rather date an attractive person that would cheet on them; rather than, a quote-unquote "good" person that would be loyal.
First, in my experience, most of the 25-35 year old women in my workplace were married--not single--and the conversation revolved around their kids.
Second, the ratio of men to women seems inaccurate to me. There are more women than men overall. I found this online:
"The percentage of female population is 50.52 percent compare to 49.48 percent male population. The United States has 3,430,615 or 3.43 million more females than males."
There may be more men in the 25-35 age bracket but in my age bracket, there are more unattached females than males. Whenever I showed up at singles events, there would be 20 women and maybe 3 men. I think this is because men generally don't go to singles events and many of them are in poor health or die young before a certain age.
Third, I think your percentage of gay men is off. Again, I found online that 16% of men are gay and 21% of women. So it balances out. There are slightly more gay women than men but it's close enough that it's a wash.
I think many men want women younger than 25 so that's a significant issue. Women who are 25-35 have already aged-out. For me, it was around 32 when I noticed that I was "done" getting dates.
most peeple would rather date an attractive person that would cheet on them; rather than, a quote-unquote "good" person that would be loyal.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Most people would absolutely not prefer to be cheated on by a hot person than to be in a relationship with decent person.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Most people would absolutely not prefer to be cheated on by a hot person than to be in a relationship with decent person.
Have you seen these modern mating strategies?
I have a good friend who is early 30s over 6 foot ripped with model looks and neck tat. Successful guy. Gorgeous woman with great jobs and careers and education are willing to be part of a harem. They know he has other women yet they don't care cause he makes them tingle. These women are all at the age where they should be engaged or married to a good man yet they prefer to give it away for nothing.
Where does that leave "Good Guys". Out of the market or having to pretend that they are bad boys. That's exhausting for most men and hard to maintain once married.
Men must change their mating strategy to keep pace with the modern world.
most peeple would rather date an attractive person that would cheet on them; rather than, a quote-unquote "good" person that would be loyal.
If you just want to have sex with an attractive woman, why not just get a hooker? I mean it is far less work to hire a pro, especially when you don't actually like women for all of the things other than sex that a woman brings to the table.
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What a ridiculous thing to say. Most people would absolutely not prefer to be cheated on by a hot person than to be in a relationship with decent person.
Agreed. I will also say lots of people want to fall in love and be loved. We have evolved to pair bond. We want emotional closeness with someone who we feel is emotionally close to us. Sex can be an aspect of expressing that emotional closeness. But most people want far more than just sex, we want love too.
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Originally Posted by AfriqueNY
Have you seen these modern mating strategies?
I have a good friend who is early 30s over 6 foot ripped with model looks and neck tat. Successful guy. Gorgeous woman with great jobs and careers and education are willing to be part of a harem. They know he has other women yet they don't care cause he makes them tingle. These women are all at the age where they should be engaged or married to a good man yet they prefer to give it away for nothing.
Where does that leave "Good Guys". Out of the market or having to pretend that they are bad boys. That's exhausting for most men and hard to maintain once married.
Men must change their mating strategy to keep pace with the modern world.
You are spending way too much time watching porn.
How many guys do you know who have a harem? How many women do you know who are willing to be in a harem?
What is Christmas and the holidays like for the people in a harem? Does he invite all of his girlfriends parents over for dinner? Who gets the front seat in the car when this guy and the harem go out on the town?
If you just want to have sex with an attractive woman, why not just get a hooker? I mean it is far less work to hire a pro, especially when you don't actually like women for all of the things other than sex that a woman brings to the table.
Agreed. I will also say lots of people want to fall in love and be loved. We have evolved to pair bond. We want emotional closeness with someone who we feel is emotionally close to us. Sex can be an aspect of expressing that emotional closeness. But most people want far more than just sex, we want love too.
You are spending way too much time watching porn.
How many guys do you know who have a harem? How many women do you know who are willing to be in a harem?
What is Christmas and the holidays like for the people in a harem? Does he invite all of his girlfriends parents over for dinner? Who gets the front seat in the car when this guy and the harem go out on the town?
See my point. Your last paragraph is an old school way of thinking. The Nice guy is buying Christmas gifts and birthday gifts and all that good stuff. The bad boy drives her car to go see the next woman. The nice guy provides and the bad boy enjoys the fruits of her labor and her body.
Yes. I know women who are willing participants in harem. They wait their turn with the top ten percent guy and won't even consider an average nice guy . They simply are not attracted to the bottom 80 percent and consider them invisible.
It was explained to me like this from a woman. She didn't care if the man was nice to her and provided and was good looking. If she felt no attraction to him he was invisible. She told me she can provide for herself and does not need a man for that so therefore she picks who makes her tingle .
As far as love is concerned men and women still want love but with someone they are attracted to. You can't force a woman to be attracted to a good man.
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