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They say there is no perfect relationship. This is true, but:
1. what imperfections in a person or situation would make you say no to amazing chemistry? ***No moral values. Someone who doesn't share my ethics and beliefs.
2. And what makes you STAY and develop a relationship even with things/the other person (that great chemistry person) not being perfect? ***No, I couldn't be with someone I don't have strong chemistry with...but this is a view of a 31 year old. I'm sure in 30 years I would feel differently.
I don't think chemistry is overrated at all but it can't be ALL that there is. I wouldn't (and haven't) dated anyone whom I didn't have chemistry with either. There are a few factors that would make me turn my back on chemistry. Their views on family,life, work, etc.
<comes a vituperative tirade of angst, personal failures, morgages, credit card debts, sky daddy didn't cure my mom's breast cancer>
"Why are you a theist?"
<a string of positives and appreciation of life and family, the good things>
Certainly, I don't wanna be around a grumpy person who whines about why she was forced to become atheist, her low points of life and how God who does not exist didn't fix her life, when her life sucks because of her and only her.
Generally, they give me some scientific gibber which they got to read off email forwards. On the other hand, these people are so illiterate they don't know what a quadratic equation is
So you're generalizing about atheists based on the ones you've talked to? How open-minded of you. Do you do that with other groups as well?
I'm not an atheist because of personal failures, mortgages, credit card debts, or a loved one's cancer. I'm an atheist for the same reason I don't believe in Santa Clause and The Tooth Fairy. Because no one has provided me with sufficient evidence to prove God exists. I'm not angry at the world or bitter with the way my life has turned out and I get tired of people who lump all atheists into the same category, characterizing us as a bunch of angry people who hate religion and religious people when most atheists don't come close to fitting this stereotype. And BTW, I've met theists who rattle off the same list of negatives you gave for atheists. When they lose their job, get cancer, lose their house, etc., they say God isn't on their side. But unlike you, I don't assume all theists think like this.
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I don't even think great chemistry is possible between such people, so to me at least it's a moot point.
Actually it can cause I've experienced it on more than one occasion. When we didn't talk about religion, it was great. But obviously you can't have a relationship with someone if you're avoiding certain topics. And the chemistry can't make you blind to your incompatibility.
So you're generalizing about atheists based on the ones you've talked to? How open-minded of you. Do you do that with other groups as well?
I'm not an atheist because of personal failures, mortgages, credit card debts, or a loved one's cancer. I'm an atheist for the same reason I don't believe in Santa Clause and The Tooth Fairy. Because no one has provided me with sufficient evidence to prove God exists. I'm not angry at the world or bitter with the way my life has turned out and I get tired of people who lump all atheists into the same category, characterizing us as a bunch of angry people who hate religion and religious people when most atheists don't come close to fitting this stereotype.
Actually it can cause I've experienced it on more than one occasion. When we didn't talk about religion, it was great. But obviously you can't have a relationship with someone if you're avoiding certain topics. And the chemistry can't make you blind to your incompatibility.
My thoughts and reasons for being an atheist echo DennyCrane's exactly. I never had a "bad" experience with religion that made me "turn" to atheism. I am sorry that apparently every atheist you've met has been 'miserable' but trust me, there's plently of us out here that have happy, productive lives, sans religious beliefs. If anything, making blanket statements about all of us being illiterate and angry us just going to make you look bad (which it did).
I think that life is a wonderful, amazing journey and I am happy and grateful (yes, atheists can feel this!!) to have the opportunity to be alive. I take no issue in having question marks in my life that may be 'answered' to someone with faith.
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My thoughts and reasons for being an atheist echo DennyCrane's exactly. I never had a "bad" experience with religion that made me "turn" to atheism. I am sorry that apparently every atheist you've met has been 'miserable' but trust me, there's plently of us out here that have happy, productive lives, sans religious beliefs. If anything, making blanket statements about all of us being illiterate and angry us just going to make you look bad (which it did).
I think that life is a wonderful, amazing journey and I am happy and grateful (yes, atheists can feel this!!) to have the opportunity to be alive. I take no issue in having question maks in my life that may be 'answered' to someone with faith.
Honestly, every atheist I know in real life has a tale to tell. And I have more atheist friends in the US than theist. Coz atheists have some sense of humour which the Christians brush aside as insensitive and crude.
If what you say is true, you're the first atheist of that kind. And hopefully, you aren't making it up for argument's sake
This is the most common complaint - on how their own family has disowned them. Sad!
Honestly, every atheist I know in real life has a tale to tell. And I have more atheist friends in the US than theist. Coz atheists have some sense of humour which the Christians brush aside as insensitive and crude.
If what you say is true, you're the first atheist of that kind. And hopefully, you aren't making it up for argument's sake
This is the most common complaint - on how their own family has disowned them. Sad!
I promise you, I really am a happy, non-bitter atheist. I do know some atheists are kind of well...how do I say this...argumentative. I rarely, if ever, post on the atheism sub-forum here because I just don't care what other people do enough to argue for the billionth time why everyone religious is an idiot and how they're wrong and blah blah. I don't see it as my business. Oddly enough, I find religion interesting from a sociological standpoint.
My tale is simply that I never felt adequate proof or reason to find a certain religion and/or belief system compelling enough to follow. I don't feel a "connection" with the universe that many people of faith seem to have. I've never felt like I was missing out so I've never sought religion. Simple as that.
Honestly, every atheist I know in real life has a tale to tell. And I have more atheist friends in the US than theist. Coz atheists have some sense of humour which the Christians brush aside as insensitive and crude.
If what you say is true, you're the first atheist of that kind. And hopefully, you aren't making it up for argument's sake
This is the most common complaint - on how their own family has disowned them. Sad!
That's funny. All of my closest friends and most of my relatives are atheists and their lives are perfectly happy and functional. They have their ups and downs, like everybody else, but nothing that will make them incurably miserable. On the other hand, some of the religious people I know are always trying to decipher what kind of message God is sending when tragedy (death, illness, a gay son... Things that may happen to anyone ) strikes. Which often makes them feel inadequate, guilty, etc. Fortunately, most religious people I get along with are reasonable and rational and they would never seriously make any dumb generalization about people they don't know.
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Same here.
Do you do that with other groups as well?
) strikes. Which often makes them feel inadequate, guilty, etc. Fortunately, most religious people I get along with are reasonable and rational and they would never seriously make any dumb generalization about people they don't know.
