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I know for a fact that there is more to us than the physical realm.
You "know for a fact" huh?? Well please do present your evidence. That you have undeniable evidence for something that has eluded the greatest minds past and present will no doubt earn you a Nobel Prize. I can't wait!!!
You "know for a fact" huh?? Well please do present your evidence. That you have undeniable evidence for something that has eluded the greatest minds past and present will no doubt earn you a Nobel Prize. I can't wait!!!
Theistic "faktz" are based o emotional experiences, they are not the same as real facts.
You "know for a fact" huh?? Well please do present your evidence. That you have undeniable evidence for something that has eluded the greatest minds past and present will no doubt earn you a Nobel Prize. I can't wait!!!
So you mean you've never had a dream that moved you? You've never had a thought so interesting that it left you in a bit of a daze? You have never been so overwelmed by your own thoughts/feelings that you could not function "normally" in this physical realm (until those strong feelings went away)?
To deny the fact that our existence is shaped by non-physical factors (ie, thoughts, dreams, and feelings) is a lie within a delusion. Without consciousness (something that can't be measured nor observed), nothing is "real"; nothing exists. This is a FACT. How do you prove this? Simple. Knock yourself out, then see what happens. I am willing to bet that your world (as you know it) would end. That's all I am saying here. Reality is nothing more than billions of beings sharing their own consciousness with others. Everything YOU know is based on your own interpretations of your own conscious reality. There are no rewards or punishments for "believing" what I have just told you. Gods and religions are delusions created by folks that wish to control the conscious development of their fellow man. You are your own God; always have been and always will be.
Do Atheists Have Faith?
Yet bet they do!!! There is NOOOOOOO doubt about it. It takes a lot of faith to "believe" that every theists is some uneducated simple minded dullard. It even takes more faith to "believe" that every person who accepts a non-physical explanation to our reality "has just got to be a theist". It's sad, but most atheists have no clue how theistic their thinking really is. Many place their absolute trust in what science tells them (while ignoring the fact that scientists often lie). With that said, atheism has taken on the form of a religion in many ways. Science is the "God" of this new religion. Science books and magazines are the "Bibles" of this faith. Science is allowed to be wrong because atheists have faith that science will "discover truth when science finds itself wrong" (a very unscientific check and balance system if you ask me).
I am all for science and progress, but when scientists are looked at to explain my consciousness (who can explain my consciousness better than me), that's not science. That's a religion. So when a theist tells me that I am not "saved" and is going to hell; or an atheist tells me that I won't exists at all after death; I tend to look at them both as being theistic simpletons trying desperately to brainwash me with their own delusions. The bottom line is that no one knows what happens to anyone after death from this realm. I feel certain that my consciousness will live on in some form or fashion. However, I know for a fact that consciousness (not atoms and molecules) is why I am here. Without consciousness, you are not "here". Without consciousness, you are not "anything". It is really that simple. This is why doctors often put their patients to sleep during painful procedures. This act takes the patient's consciousness away from what is being done to the body (which helps the patient recover faster). I hate to rant, but the connection between consciousness and reality is just too obvious for someone like myself to ignore. And YES, I am an atheist (just not a theistic science worshiping one).
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So you mean you've never had a dream that moved you?
No!
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You've never had a thought so interesting that it left you in a bit of a daze?
Ummm, no! (Not unless you count throwing Campbell into a pit full of poisonous snakes).
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You have never been so overwelmed by your own thoughts/feelings that you could not function "normally" in this physical realm (until those strong feelings went away)?
Ummm, no! (Not unless you count throwing Campbell into a pit full of poisonous snakes).
No!
I'm a freak!!!
Wow, no thoughts, no dreams, no wishes, no intuition. Heck, not even a "wet dream" during your adolescent years (the "first time" for most guys if they're honest). If what you say is true (which I doubt you are being truthful here), then you are not alive (or not real).
Anyways, my point was that your consciousness (ie, what goes on in your head) has more to do with your existence than what you currently give it credit for. This is NOT a theistic message. This is just another atheist (like yourself) stating the obvious.
Wow, no thoughts, no dreams, no wishes, no intuition. Heck, not even a "wet dream" during your adolescent years (the "first time" for most guys if they're honest). If what you say is true (which I doubt you are being truthful here), then you are not alive (or not real).
He dreams, just nothing profound enough to move him, they are just dreams. Neither have I.
He dreams, just nothing profound enough to move him, they are just dreams. Neither have I.
Nightmares, wet dreams, dreams of dead loved ones, etc are dreams we all have. And yes, they move us whether we believe they do or not. If they didn't "move us", we would not be having them in the first place.
Nightmares, wet dreams, dreams of dead loved ones, etc are dreams we all have. And yes, they move us whether we believe they do or not. If they didn't "move us", we would not be having them in the first place.
Dreams are memories, wishes and thoughts, conscience or sub conscience.. Nothing supernatural about them. And yes, you would still have them. Brain at work.
Dreams are memories, wishes and thoughts, conscience or sub conscience.. Nothing supernatural about them.
There is no such thing as the "supernatural". There is only nature. We tend to label nature as being "super" only when we encounter a characteristic of nature that we just don't understand.
As for your explanation of all dreams, I'll just have to agree to disagree with you.
Last edited by urbancharlotte; 04-19-2011 at 10:36 AM..
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(the "first time" for most guys if they're honest). If what you say is true (which I doubt you are being truthful here), then you are not alive (or not real).
