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Old 11-03-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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Intentionally scattering our bodies to wherever at least symbolically is a rejection of the Christian belief in Resurrection.
I don't see how that is the case. First, how would you address the Catholic Church's veneration of relics, which have historically included the ashes, or partial skeletal remains, of saints? Second, God - who created man out of the dust of the earth - is capable of gathering those same ashes and bones back up, from wherever they were scattered, to reform them back into a physical body at Resurrection.

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I did want to briefly address the comment of another poster about Unitarian Universalism. "Insightofitall" said most UU's believe in relativism.

Don't mistake our inclusiveness for relativism.
I'm not.


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As far as I can tell, most of us have strongly held beliefs, and we, as individuals, believe the beliefs we have are true. It has been my experience that the majority of us don't believe that every belief can be right in its own way. But, we respect the right of each individual to believe what they believe. We may not share their beliefs, and we may personally believe their beliefs probably aren't true, but we support them in their own journey.
Doesn't what you are saying basically square away with what you read here....

Relativism*[Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]

What is relativism? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

Incidentally, I hope you don't think I'm arguing or making any kind of judgment call here. I'm in no position to do that. I'm just addressing the OP.

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Old 11-03-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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I don't see how that is the case. First, how would you address the Catholic Church's veneration of relics, which have historically included the ashes, or partial skeletal remains, of saints? Second, God - who created man out of the dust of the earth - is capable of gathering those same ashes and bones back up, from wherever they were scattered, to reform them back into a physical body at Resurrection.
First, veneration of relics by the Catholic Church? No, I think those within the actual Church are educated enough to understand they are just props used as evidence that the Saints were real. If it gives the common people a degree of trust and of having evidence that their Saints aren't just made up than the better for Christianity, since all it requires is the veneration of Jesus as God and part of the Trinity and his death and what not. There is not much that Jesus and his immediate followers said against about having relics from the past to prove the past true.

Second, science tells a different story about the origins of humans. And the atoms within people are continually replaced as you live, once you die, those atoms become part of decomposers and some of them would eventually end up in another dead Christian in the future, So then "using the same atoms" would be a ridiculous and unlikely way for God to physically resurrect all of the dead Christians who metaphorically killed themselves during the water purification ritual... and or sold their souls to worship it in the hopes of attaining immortality.
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