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With all the dumb and wasteful spending the government does, I am sure they are invested in something like this as well. The Government does want to control your mind, anyone who denies this is blind or has bought into it. But, a topic for another time...
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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88
On this?..........
We agree on all counts!
And this differs how from religion? Very little for it is all about controlling the masses. Government has the advantage in that religion has programmed those without the ability to think to accept what authority says as fact, and without question. The scoundrels of religion are the enablers for the scoundrels of government.
Religion and government teach "what to think" and not "how to think" for if a person knows 'how' to think they are seen as an imminent threat by both.
And this differs how from religion? Very little for it is all about controlling the masses. Government has the advantage in that religion has programmed those without the ability to think to accept what authority says as fact, and without question. The scoundrels of religion are the enablers for the scoundrels of government.
Religion and government teach "what to think" and not "how to think" for if a person knows 'how' to think they are seen as an imminent threat by both.
Preaching to the choir Ashville....
I'm quite active in certain groups trying to limit the gov't power over individual freedoms and prevent the "nanny state". It's quite grimm out there, not many want to bear the burden of thinking for themselves.
Take a look at my blog to learn more about one of the subjects I am most active in.
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Originally Posted by raison_d'etre
The only reason I have yet to respond to your DM is because I only have time later in the day to check posts, later tonight or tomorrow morning I will respond and tell you all about it and how I came to this decision if you want.?
Take your time. I understand where you'r coming from on this.....
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Originally Posted by Nozzferrahhtoo
Do not waste your time. tgonstic clearly just generates the majority of his posts using a random word generator. None of them mean anything.
And this differs how from religion? Very little for it is all about controlling the masses. Government has the advantage in that religion has programmed those without the ability to think to accept what authority says as fact, and without question. The scoundrels of religion are the enablers for the scoundrels of government.
Religion and government teach "what to think" and not "how to think" for if a person knows 'how' to think they are seen as an imminent threat by both.
Last time I checked atheists didn't just choose one religion to attack when they do. They attack them all.
Last time I checked atheists didn't just choose one religion to attack when they do. They attack them all.
All religions present various levels of threat to society and mankind's future. If you choose to call it attack, that's your interpretation of defending one's rights and society from the stupidity of religion.
All religions present various levels of threat to society and mankind's future. If you choose to call it attack, that's your interpretation of defending one's rights and society from the stupidity of religion.
Please explain in more detail how this is true. I have to know how the Amish pose a threat to society? If you could, explain how each religion can cause a threat to society. I know how Christian and Islamic religion can, so you can skip those.
If it is true that all religions present various levels of threat to society, wouldn't that also suggest that all philosophical ideas pose a threat to society, and that all views of religion pose a threat to society?
Last time I checked atheists didn't just choose one religion to attack when they do. They attack them all.
Of course because all but a few religions share the exact same core unsubstantiated claim: The existence of god. So it would be intellectually dishonest to attack one of them and not the other.
If anyone could substantiate the existence of the god then we could start to differentiate between the religions and attack some and not others. Until that time however they are all just world views based on the same core claim and that claim is.... to date.... entirely unsubstantiated in any way.
That is, of course, not to say that some religions are not in OTHER ways very much worse than some other religions. If I asked people which they would prefer.... their neighbor hood to receive 100 new fundamentalist Muslims.... or 100 new fundamentalist Jains.... I think we both know everyone is going to choose the latter. There is a reason for that.
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Originally Posted by raison_d'etre
So you want greater detail but you also want a simple outline? Please, discuss among each other what you want and I will provide it.
Do not pretend that the two are mutually exclusive just to present another cop out of telling us exactly what you are talking about. I recognise you might want to keep your ideas vague because they are baseless and possibly even ludicrous, but do not do us the insult of pretending you are doing so because of some failure on OUR part.
You are the one espousing the existence of some kind of "Life force energy". I merely want to know exactly what you mean by this phrase.
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Originally Posted by raison_d'etre
Do you really want me to write a biology book about energy and how it works?
No, but nice try. As I said already however I am more than aware already of the energy sources used by life on this planet. The sun, photosynthesis, the more recently discovered chemeosynthesis. The energy processes of life are far from opaque to me and you are erring into one of my fields now on which I know quite a bit more than the average poster.
What I am asking you is simply whether this vague term of "life force energy" that you are throwing around is merely just a label for all that stuff we know already... or are you talking about something else/extra entirely. An answer I am not going to get to as long as you continue to wriggle out of all calls to adumbrate what you are talking about when you use this phrase.
Please explain in more detail how this is true. I have to know how the Amish pose a threat to society?quote]
I'll take this one folks.....
I really dont have all that much aganst the Amish. They are a quiet people, they are set in their ideology and they don't really care if they "save" you or not.
However, I would have to say that the #1 threat to society they pose specificly is that it is their goal to keep humans living in a state of ignornce. Now, this is true of all religions, but the Amish take it one step further. They believe that getting an education is actually agianst God and is a sin. Education past the 8th grade is forbidden in most Amish sects, because it may lead to pride.
} Not to mention they don't pay taxes for the roads they love to drive their buggies on and annoy the rest of us "motorists" and they refuse to go to war to defend a country that so many others have died to defend their right to practice their faith.
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