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Old 03-30-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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Do you not know that many or most of these fossilized trees have been extinct for millions of years? That kinda blows your ark story right out of the water...
Only if one accepts the current improper methadology of dating the different layers laid down during the one year global flood. Those polystrare trees were living just before the ww flood.

 
Old 03-30-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Only if one accepts the current improper methadology of dating the different layers laid down during the one year global flood. Those polystrare trees were living just before the ww flood.
We have you grasping at straws now, don't we?
 
Old 03-30-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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We have you grasping at straws now, don't we?
I appreciate the love Eusebius has for God . . . but believing scientific absurdities is no way to show it or prove it. It is embarrassing to God and all who love Him. I wish these ridiculous Flood and Ark threads would just disappear.
 
Old 03-30-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I appreciate the love Eusebius has for God . . . but believing scientific absurdities is no way to show it or prove it. It is embarrassing to God and all who love Him. I wish these ridiculous Flood and Ark threads would just disappear.
I see these threads as an exploration into the human mind, but still do not understand how anyone can blind themselves to reality so thoroughly....I often wonder if they actually believe such nonsense, or if they want to believe it so desperately that it blinds them to the reality that some of their beliefs are not possible.
 
Old 03-30-2012, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Clintone asked, honestly: "How do you keep thousands of animals, likely wallowing in their own excrement for about a year, from getting sick? Is it magic? It's magic, isn't it?

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Use antibiotics? Nyuk nyuk!
Ahhhnnnnddddd.... that's typical of his best answers when cornered.

After all, the correct answer is: you can't.

No Noah; no Ark, no flood, no quicky-repopulating of the earth, no sinking Ark held together with pitch but magically withstanding violent seas that sprang out of nowhere but then disappeared back into nowhere on demand; no deluge for 40 days & nights @ 11 feet/hour with the resulting friction heating, no living on a windowless, fresh air-less and unheated barge in tossing seas for 18 months, with not enough room even for 1/10,000,000 th of the known 30 - 100 million different species of plants and animals, times however many it would take of each species to ensure their success at completely repopulating the earth, even if they were let out into a pristine & undamaged ecosystem. Which of course they could not have been. No room for food or water (except for the truly hoaxy idea that Noah made it all as freeze-dried food ).

Nope. What a macro-load of tribal nonsense. All absent even a hint of logic or reality. But for those who believe it, it's obviously their loss, huh?
 
Old 03-30-2012, 08:14 PM
 
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Clintone asked, honestly: "How do you keep thousands of animals, likely wallowing in their own excrement for about a year, from getting sick? Is it magic? It's magic, isn't it?



Ahhhnnnnddddd.... that's typical of his best answers when cornered.

After all, the correct answer is: you can't.
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
 
Old 03-30-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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Why some people will never give up their old-fashioned beliefs:
Study: Conservatives' Trust In Science At Record Low : The Two-Way : NPR
A study on the level of conservative's trust in Science.
From the article:

"Here's how Gauchat explained that thesis to US News:
"Gauchat says conservatives' rebellion against the 'elite' and the shifting role of science in society is to blame for the decline. He argues that the conservative minority has rebelled against science in the same way it has against media and higher education.
"'It kind of began with the loss of Barry Goldwater and the construction of Fox News and all these [conservative] think tanks. The perception among conservatives is that they're at a disadvantage, a minority,' he says. 'It's not surprising that the conservative subculture would challenge what's viewed as the dominant knowledge production groups in society — science and the media.'

Some people have a deep mistrust in Science. One possible explanation was given: "First that science is now responsible for providing answers to questions that religion used to answer" and that seems to be the main factor in some of our poster's obstinacy. That and the items mentioned above - things like "higher education" (who needs THAT - there's only one textbook I read: the Good Book! yuk yuk).

The entertaining thing about this thread is that some posters really think that the Noah's Ark Story is true, and that all attempts to show otherwise are misguided ha ha! Oh - if they only have a few conversations with their non-Fundamentalist Christian brothers and sisters. Oh- wait. They aren't "REAL" Christians, according to conservative fundamentalists...
 
Old 03-30-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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Its probably a parable
 
Old 03-31-2012, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
What seems to be the case is that the section of the Bible referring to Noah's ark was either partly inaccurate, or not meant as a historical account.

Magic could counter the above statement, magic being that which we cannot understand yet...maybe that we can never understand.

Yet, if we prefer explanations of magic to what seems to be in one instance, there is no excuse for ever relying on what seems to be rather than magic.

In this way, the Bible still shouldn't be taken literally, because pink elephants perhaps falling from the sky tomorrow is as likely as it raining. Nothing would be reliable, even if Jesus himself came to earth, glowing and predicting winning lottery numbers.

Anyone disagree? It's not so much a question of what could be true, but what it makes sense to believe is likely to be true.

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Old 03-31-2012, 03:04 AM
 
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ok ...I think thread starter truly believes the ark is more then a parable, so thats different.
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